https://www.19fortyfive.com/2022/10/to-defend-ukraine-it-is-time-to-strike-iran/
sounds hinged
I know I’m preaching to the choir but this war has shown that the west only gives a shit about white people
Half the joke with Ukraine is how casually we're throwing their lives away
The other half of the joke is how the civilian death toll is a fraction of almost any war in recoded history.
A bit early to report civilian casualties, particularly given the habit of military agencies preferring to underreport or report civilians as troops well past the point they're outed as liars.
I remember the '06 Lancet report that upped the official Iraqi death toll by an order of magnitude.
report civilians as troops well past the point they’re outed as liars
it's also confused by Ukrainian officials going on the news and announcing that every civilian in a town is armed and planning on fighting Russian soldiers. Which is a war crime
The lancet report on Iraq was done by survey and its methodology was seriously flawed when investigated by other medical groups. Its on par with :zenz: methodology
If you look at the reports from the UN on Iraq and compare, it was roughly 2x the civilian deaths in the first 6 months and Iraq's population as half. Also UN inspectors are way more welcome in Ukraine than Iraq and tech for reporting civilian casualties (cellphones and drones) is 20 years more advanced.
The lancet report on Iraq was done by survey and its methodology was seriously flawed when investigated by other medical groups.
The functional difference between Lancet and Zenz is that China didn't turn Xinjiang into an active war zone.
Crediting mass displacement and disappearance to an invasion and brutal occupation is something radically different than counterterrorism and urbanization.
If you look at the reports from the UN on Iraq and compare, it was roughly 2x the civilian deaths in the first 6 months and Iraq’s population as half. Also UN inspectors are way more welcome in Ukraine than Iraq and tech for reporting civilian casualties (cellphones and drones) is 20 years more advanced.
That doesn't solve the problem of internal displacement and disappearance, which can't generate useful data in the short term.
The mid/long term effects of disease, malnutrition, crime, etc won't reveal themselves for years.
This is only the beginning, and there's very little Westerners can (or would) do to prevent what follows the kind of manufactured horror of war.
The functional difference between Lancet and Zenz is that China didn’t turn Xinjiang into an active war zone. The lancet followed a war it didn't start one.
Crediting mass displacement and disappearance to an invasion and brutal occupation is something radically different than counterterrorism and urbanization.
I'm not talking about content or effects. I'm saying they are both using flawed survey methodology and extrapolation to make a narrative that suites your agenda.
That doesn’t solve the problem of internal displacement and disappearance, which can’t generate useful data in the short term. The mid/long term effects of disease, malnutrition, crime, etc won’t reveal themselves for years. This is only the beginning, and there’s very little Westerners can (or would) do to prevent what follows the kind of manufactured horror of war.
Yes. There will be knock on effects and yes the rate of death in Iraq was higher than the direct casualties of the war but it is irrelevant. The direct consequences of the Iraq invasion were 4x as deadly as Russia's invasion in Ukraine.
The knock on effects will be different because the situations are different but I am sure Russia will do everything in its power to limit those as well. The massive amount of indirect deaths due to displacement and damaged infrastructure are solely on the hands of the west and their Ukrainian Puppets as they are the ones who pushed Russia to destroy the Ukrainian infrastructure. It will be the wests failure to assist Ukraine rebuilding after the war that will doom the people of Ukraine.
I would assume the life expectancy in Donbas will rise dramatically under Russia. I cant find any data about what life expectancy was in Crimea before it joined Russia but between 2014 and 2019 (when corona hit) life expectancy jumped 2.7%.
I'm surprised Ukrainians are complaining; their experience of war is a VIP one as far as I can tell. Bunkers with wi-fi, the freedom to tell invading soldiers 'I hope you die' to their face without getting shot, the license to be horrendously racist and still be cheered on, etc. Iraqis and Afghans were never granted any of this.
I honestly hope if I ever have to be a civilian in a war I get to be as lucky as the Ukrainians.
They are Slavs too, even if they are temporarily honorary whites.
Yes, but people are going nuts about Ukraine. More deaths have been thrown away in Yemen, but nobody in the west gives a single shit
Fascists have no principles. Who's subhuman and who belongs to the master race is decided entirely by what is expedient at the moment. The people who were non-white yesterday can be white today and vice versa. Their race science is complete bullshit all the way through. The only thing that matters to fascists is that they themselves belongs to the master race.
They are the muse behind one of the greatest marvels of ancient engineering.
The Russians were white 100 years ago and Ukrainians were considered Russians until last year
How to be a successful think tank:
- Carefully discern the situation
- Disregard any and all meaningful insight
- Suggest war with Iran
"iran wants war, look at how close they put their country to our military bases!"
Conceptualization [Godly: Failure] I wonder if there's a way we can somehow turn that into a grift to fund actually decent projects
To support the Iranian protesters, we should kill them . Neoliberalism is a death cult
stop trying to make the Iran war happen, Richard, it's not going to happen
To defend Ukraine, it's time for Kat Dennings to become my wife.
Ah yes time to start a second front at a time when the US is literally low on weapons and missiles due to giving them all to Ukraine, including literally taking them out of the direct hands of existing active units.
Don't worry, history is over and the USA upholds the only viable ideology, liberalism, so victory is assured to be theirs! :very-intelligent:
The best way to support protests and insurrection is to bomb their country and increase sanctions, of course.
Sounds good Richard, we'll be strapping you to the first missile
another insane party that thinks the military has been hijacked by crazy far left antifa.
...and also wants to destroy every foreign country. :no-oil:
When they say otherwise, it's kayfabe.
yeah one of the greatest PR tricks the republican party ever pulled in their 160-something year history was starting the war on terror, passing the credit for it to the democrats, and then pretending to be peace doves ever since.
When they say otherwise, it’s kayfabe.
fr. russiabot-brained libs and chuds alike think that Trump and Putin were pals, but he actually kept poking Russia just as much as Dubya and Obama. Remember the hypersonic missile stories after the US broke the disarmament treaties with Russia that dated back to the cold war? Congrats, you have more object permanence than the average American.
Yep, backing out of START was some absolute ghoul shit.
And then he talks about how Obama was actually holding back their modernization program so the US military is has fallen behind etc.
Wish chuds would just admit shit like the F-35 is not making the US much stronger at all then, I mean what is the other conclusion here?
