https://www.19fortyfive.com/2022/10/to-defend-ukraine-it-is-time-to-strike-iran/

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    • ElHexo
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      3 months ago

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    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      I know I’m preaching to the choir but this war has shown that the west only gives a shit about white people

      Half the joke with Ukraine is how casually we're throwing their lives away

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          2 years ago

          A bit early to report civilian casualties, particularly given the habit of military agencies preferring to underreport or report civilians as troops well past the point they're outed as liars.

          I remember the '06 Lancet report that upped the official Iraqi death toll by an order of magnitude.

          • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            report civilians as troops well past the point they’re outed as liars

            it's also confused by Ukrainian officials going on the news and announcing that every civilian in a town is armed and planning on fighting Russian soldiers. Which is a war crime

          • Commiejones [comrade/them, he/him]
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            2 years ago

            The lancet report on Iraq was done by survey and its methodology was seriously flawed when investigated by other medical groups. Its on par with :zenz: methodology

            If you look at the reports from the UN on Iraq and compare, it was roughly 2x the civilian deaths in the first 6 months and Iraq's population as half. Also UN inspectors are way more welcome in Ukraine than Iraq and tech for reporting civilian casualties (cellphones and drones) is 20 years more advanced.

            • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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              2 years ago

              The lancet report on Iraq was done by survey and its methodology was seriously flawed when investigated by other medical groups.

              The functional difference between Lancet and Zenz is that China didn't turn Xinjiang into an active war zone.

              Crediting mass displacement and disappearance to an invasion and brutal occupation is something radically different than counterterrorism and urbanization.

              If you look at the reports from the UN on Iraq and compare, it was roughly 2x the civilian deaths in the first 6 months and Iraq’s population as half. Also UN inspectors are way more welcome in Ukraine than Iraq and tech for reporting civilian casualties (cellphones and drones) is 20 years more advanced.

              That doesn't solve the problem of internal displacement and disappearance, which can't generate useful data in the short term.

              The mid/long term effects of disease, malnutrition, crime, etc won't reveal themselves for years.

              This is only the beginning, and there's very little Westerners can (or would) do to prevent what follows the kind of manufactured horror of war.

              • Commiejones [comrade/them, he/him]
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                The functional difference between Lancet and Zenz is that China didn’t turn Xinjiang into an active war zone. The lancet followed a war it didn't start one.

                Crediting mass displacement and disappearance to an invasion and brutal occupation is something radically different than counterterrorism and urbanization.

                I'm not talking about content or effects. I'm saying they are both using flawed survey methodology and extrapolation to make a narrative that suites your agenda.

                That doesn’t solve the problem of internal displacement and disappearance, which can’t generate useful data in the short term. The mid/long term effects of disease, malnutrition, crime, etc won’t reveal themselves for years. This is only the beginning, and there’s very little Westerners can (or would) do to prevent what follows the kind of manufactured horror of war.

                Yes. There will be knock on effects and yes the rate of death in Iraq was higher than the direct casualties of the war but it is irrelevant. The direct consequences of the Iraq invasion were 4x as deadly as Russia's invasion in Ukraine.

                The knock on effects will be different because the situations are different but I am sure Russia will do everything in its power to limit those as well. The massive amount of indirect deaths due to displacement and damaged infrastructure are solely on the hands of the west and their Ukrainian Puppets as they are the ones who pushed Russia to destroy the Ukrainian infrastructure. It will be the wests failure to assist Ukraine rebuilding after the war that will doom the people of Ukraine.

                I would assume the life expectancy in Donbas will rise dramatically under Russia. I cant find any data about what life expectancy was in Crimea before it joined Russia but between 2014 and 2019 (when corona hit) life expectancy jumped 2.7%.

        • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          I'm surprised Ukrainians are complaining; their experience of war is a VIP one as far as I can tell. Bunkers with wi-fi, the freedom to tell invading soldiers 'I hope you die' to their face without getting shot, the license to be horrendously racist and still be cheered on, etc. Iraqis and Afghans were never granted any of this.

      • AssadCurse [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Yes, but people are going nuts about Ukraine. More deaths have been thrown away in Yemen, but nobody in the west gives a single shit

      • SoyViking [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Fascists have no principles. Who's subhuman and who belongs to the master race is decided entirely by what is expedient at the moment. The people who were non-white yesterday can be white today and vice versa. Their race science is complete bullshit all the way through. The only thing that matters to fascists is that they themselves belongs to the master race.

    • Farman [any]
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      2 years ago

      To be fair mongolians are prrety cool.

  • FnordPrefect [comrade/them, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    How to be a successful think tank:

    1. Carefully discern the situation
    2. Disregard any and all meaningful insight
    3. Suggest war with Iran
    • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Conceptualization [Godly: Failure] I wonder if there's a way we can somehow turn that into a grift to fund actually decent projects

  • Rojo27 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I wish these cowards would just say they want WW3.

  • supafuzz [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    stop trying to make the Iran war happen, Richard, it's not going to happen

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Ah yes time to start a second front at a time when the US is literally low on weapons and missiles due to giving them all to Ukraine, including literally taking them out of the direct hands of existing active units.

    • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Don't worry, history is over and the USA upholds the only viable ideology, liberalism, so victory is assured to be theirs! :very-intelligent:

  • Abraxiel
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    2 years ago

    The best way to support protests and insurrection is to bomb their country and increase sanctions, of course.

  • VILenin [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Give me one trillion dollars to defend Ukraine pls.

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    • Findom_DeLuise [she/her, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      another insane party that thinks the military has been hijacked by crazy far left antifa.

      ...and also wants to destroy every foreign country. :no-oil:

      When they say otherwise, it's kayfabe.

      • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        yeah one of the greatest PR tricks the republican party ever pulled in their 160-something year history was starting the war on terror, passing the credit for it to the democrats, and then pretending to be peace doves ever since.

      • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        When they say otherwise, it’s kayfabe.

        fr. russiabot-brained libs and chuds alike think that Trump and Putin were pals, but he actually kept poking Russia just as much as Dubya and Obama. Remember the hypersonic missile stories after the US broke the disarmament treaties with Russia that dated back to the cold war? Congrats, you have more object permanence than the average American.

    • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      And then he talks about how Obama was actually holding back their modernization program so the US military is has fallen behind etc.

      Wish chuds would just admit shit like the F-35 is not making the US much stronger at all then, I mean what is the other conclusion here?