But please, believe that :reddit-logo: gives a shit about Muslims in China.

For the record, conservatism is a problem for Muslim-majority nations (and organized religion tends to be a den of reaction in general). Of course, as with all things, the problem must be analyzed in a materialist lens, not an idealist one which thinks that Muslims are a hivemind who are hypnotized by the Quran to stab infidels.

Not to mention that Western Muslims tend to be more socially progressive on average (gee, I wonder why). The fact that the OP pointed them out in particular borders on incitement.

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  • kristina [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    average muslim in america is way more accepting of lgbt people than christians are. when i was in college there was this muslim prayer group that i was good friends with cause they were across the hall and would help us with homeless lgbt people. we'd all go down to various restaurants and get leftovers at the end of day for the homeless folks

    • macabrett
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      2 years ago

      most American muslims I've met have been further left than the average American...

      • kristina [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        fr. there were some shithead liberals that i knew that acted like the women in the group were being forced into wearing the hijabs. when i talked to the muslim ladies about it they were just like, nah its a hidden tech i havent washed my hair in a week and i save so much time on styling

        • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          The real secret why the ladies wear headscarves. can't have a bad hair day if your hair's stylishly hidden with a nice kufiya

          • kristina [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            legit their scarves were so cute they even got me one and tied it into my hair all pretty honestly need to talk with them more see how theyre doing

            • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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              2 years ago

              for real, theres so many cute and cool ways to tie them up i'm more surprised it's not a more common trend in the U.S.

  • anoncpc [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Bruh. America crank up on Uyghur while funding Islamic caliphate in Syria that recruit these Uyghur, so much that the American bomb them, it’s a f*cking joke

      • SaniFlush [any, any]
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        2 years ago

        If it makes you feel better, the decline of western civilization doesn't mean the end of civilization everywhere. It just means that the great-grandchildren of the Roman Empire have finally been made to shut up and sit down.

          • SaniFlush [any, any]
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            2 years ago

            Them and the Global South. Really pretty much all the parts of the world which aren't obsessed with beef.

              • SaniFlush [any, any]
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                2 years ago

                Let's hope that the protests have a better result than the ones in Chile, in which their government did the equivalent of taunting someone with a dollar bill on a fishhook.

        • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
          hexagon
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          2 years ago

          I mean, wouldn’t that also include Latin America?

          The abused, bastard great-grandchildren of the Roman Empire but great-grandchildren all the same, if we’re going through with this analogy.

      • CrimsonSage [any]
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        2 years ago

        Civilizational decline is idealistic nonsense. Morals aren't changing and neither are people, we are just entering the peaks stages of the material contradictions of the system we are in. Everything will be over determined until it all suddenly isn't.

        Edit: actually I think people are more moral today because of the material developments of society. Hell the fact I cam be an open trans woman om society is a massive improvement. Now the fash just want to kill me, 30 years ago they already would have. That's the hard part, as shity as it all feels we actually aren't loosing as bad as it seems; atleast when you subtract the whole climate bit, that is really super bad.e

          • CrimsonSage [any]
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            2 years ago

            Oh yes, but that's because the revolution failed and the ruling class reset the game in the 70's. Basically everything from 1917 to the late 80's was just a aberration to the historical trend of capital. Now we are playing out the story that was interrupted.

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          2 years ago

          Morals aren’t changing and neither are people

          Ok slow down and pump the brakes on that. Human civilisations are absolutely evolving to fit their changing environments.

          Half the joke of fascism is the "return to tradition" nonsense advocated by people who would be drawn and quartered by the ancestors they claim to emulate.

          • CrimsonSage [any]
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            2 years ago

            Yeah I meant that the state of society isn't being driven by some moral decline.

      • BeamBrain [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        We’re entering the period of decadence and decline all civilizations go through, where morals, ethics, and values have been placed behind material wealth in terms of prioritization by society.

        Isn't that how it's always been in the West? Or perhaps it would be just as accurate to say that acquiring material wealth is our highest moral value.

  • BigAssBlueBug [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    To be fair, avoiding any abrahamic religion types is already a tried and true survival strategy for LGBTQ folks. It's unfair to point out muslims lmao

  • AFineWayToDie [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    For the record, conservatism is problem for Muslim-majority nations

    And how many of those nations have governments established or held up by the US?

    • mazdak
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      1 year ago

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    • CanYouFeelItMrKrabs [any, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Countries like Bangladesh that were created against the wishes of the US are also very conservative.

      British colonialozation definitely increased or introduced homophobia in the Indian subcontinent. At independence India and Pakistan kept the homophobic laws they inherited from the British but now days things are changing in India

      • Teekeeus [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        How many anti-lgbt laws are colonial in origin? IIRC it's many or most of them

        • CanYouFeelItMrKrabs [any, he/him]
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          2 years ago

          A lot for sure. Nepal wasn't a British colony and also banned LGBT relationships till 2007. But maybe they were still influenced by British India

  • Kanna [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Focusing hard only on Muslims is pure :reddit-logo: racism, but being wary of any religion is a good strat for queer people :07:

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    That old reliable bigotry trench, always there to fall back to. :no-oil:

  • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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    2 years ago

    all muslims are straight and conservative. i know this because even though i've never spoken to a muslim, i have been told what they're like by keith olberman

  • FlintstoneSpiceLatte [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Redditors only hate Muslims because they think they are stealing their kills.

    Also, tell them that they sound like Xi Jinping and watch them glitch out. We can get a lot of mileage out of calling them commieservatives.