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Jamie, pull up a chart of wealth owned by each generational cohort
Conservatives: "Let's fuck over an entire generation."
Also conservatives: "Why doesn't this generation like us?"
With how far right the Overton window has gone in those two countries, it makes perfect sense that younger generations aren't moving further right because they can't move further without becoming self identified Nazis.
Also rates of home ownership and real wages are plummeting. Where the younger generations are left holding the bag. Home ownership was the last line of defense for capital in the west, tying your greatest debt to market prices and turning everyone into market speculators if they hoped to survive old age.
Then 2008 happened and continues to happen at increasing rates. Those who got in are making money speculating, and this who didn't have the capital, the young and poor, are left paying exorbitant rents to maintain the ruse.
I have been saying (not in leftist spaces) for fucking years that this trend is basically just people being self interested in a capital system, which tended to work out along the axis of age for a while.
Like even if you're a "me, mine, also me" type asshole if you're a 20-something student with no cash being a leftist makes sense, politically. It's what promises more resources (to generalize) to you. And then if you have the sort of make-believe-once-in-maybe-two-lifetimes-life that our previous generations (or rather, those that survived) had, nothing about your core beliefs needs to change to turn you from a leftist into a conservative asshole.
I have been boo'd and shouted at, but I am right!
On the one hand a better income and better controlled living expenses, on the other hand culture war.
I don't know you guys, I'd really like to see the energy and medical sector nationalized, along with a possibility of living accommodations being made a human right, but on the other hand I'm really worried about more black people in Star Wars.
Liberals promise civility while crushing the poor, fascists promise incivility while crushing the poor, Marxists promise eliminating the material conditions which make people poor, liberal, or fascist. Tough choice.
It would also just be neat to live in the presence of justice. If I look up and there's no imperial war, I'd feel a little dopamine. If working in a kitchen wasn't awful and there was no ghoul of a manager hovering over the place "disciplining" the people that worked there, then maybe fast food wouldn't be such a meme. Maybe people could care about feeding the community. Maybe casual conversation with a customer wouldn't be such a nightmarish experience. These things would be nice and antithetical to what either party is suggesting.
Maybe people could care about feeding the community.
My dream scenario socialism involves local cafeterias where people who like cooking can feed the community while those who don't can just eat and not have to worry about preparing shit 2-3 times a day every day.
This was a reality for decades in the Eastern Bloc, and still is in Chinese communes.
This is my dream, too. If I woke up and suddenly didn't need to worry about money ever again, my family and I would probably spend the rest of our lives gardening and making community soup like Big Kinook.
That's probably the majority of it, for sure. But like I went to a particularly conservative unisex private school growing up and still know plenty of former classmates from that sphere.
The people who were supposed to be the next Brett Kavanaughs, essentially, and it's just not materializing. Maybe a 30/30/40 left/lib/fasc split. This was supposed to be the demographic they had the most purchase with.
I suspect that young people can not escape the feeling that there is no future. It becomes in your interest to move left if you feel like there is literally no future due to climate collapse and the mountain of other issues. Survival is a higher priority than wealth.
People are no longer becoming more wealthy as they age.
A bit hard to vote for "fuck you, I got mine" when you never got yours.
A bit hard to vote for “fuck you, I got mine” when you never got yours.
I know a few lost souls that do exactly that: they're poor as dirt and hate the poor. :desolate:
Yes, but on the other hand "the left" in those cases are Keith Starmer and Joe Biden.
The bourgeois response to millennials moving to the left seems to have been to move the left to the right.
Eh, younger people were also the least likely to support them over :bernie-pout: or :long-corbyn:
Me hearing that: :sicko-hair:
Me remembering that means me: :sicko-no:
We can be there for each other. When we take action out of love instead of money, so much more becomes possible.
It’s inverse Reaganism/Thatcherism. If a cohort doesn’t own their homes, they won’t become reactionary.
Subverting the labyrinth that is a Capitalist Realism mindset is a tall order. How do we start?
With every moment, my hatred for what I used to think was my country increases.
...And now we return to the Capitalist Realism. The inability to imagine how the world could ever become better, because the mediocre present is unassailable. Reading this response only reinforces that for me.
I suppose the answer is the same as the one offered by the Discordians. "Just do something else, I guess."
The labor movement, since any project that genuinely embraces a self-organized working class almost by definition cannot be fascist
putting gen Z on this for the brief five years they've been voting would requiring tripling the minimum on the Y axis
Zoomers are even more atomized than anyone before them and have almost zero mental shielding from internet propaganda, yet STILL average more left than right.
Thankfully the everyday experience of life has a strong left-wing bias. Especially if you’re poor, like every Zoomer is.
It's insane to me, when I'm organizing I can get zoomers on board with the most extreme anarchist ideas just by being like, an irl person they work with on a daily basis. The atomization is unreal.
Something important to note is the trend is largely caused by left-leaning older people dying younger
That's obviously not applicable to what this data's about, which is Milennials. You can see it for Silent Generation though for sure.
That's not too surprising really. While Labour and Conservatives (And republicans and democrats of course) are both effectively two wings of the same ruling party, the conservatives have always been much more blatant in their right wing social darwinism. Their entire thing is to appeal to people who are comfortably well off, have a mortguage etc. And are somewhat secure usually by appealing to their greed and fear.
There really aren't that many milennials who have the level of financial stability needed that they'd believe the conservatives would benefit them and not target them.
I think this is offset by the right-wing millennials more frequently being grinning unashamed fascists rather than dopey conservatives who just wanna grill
