• hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
    hexagon
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    2 years ago

    Imagine being 40 and bragging that you're going to read 1984 and Hitchhiker's guide.

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Godel, Escher, Bach is a "suggestion he's considering". How the fuck are you a stem dork who hasn't read that book yet? He's poorly read even for a stem person, lmao.

      • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        I've read that book and all I got from it was like "what if the cool part of music was that it's actually algebra"

        • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
          hexagon
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          2 years ago

          Yeah, the target audience is very much 19 year old STEM students. Most people pretty much grow out of it after that.

        • Mardoniush [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          It's more that a lot of things rely on self referential loops and that's kind of cool but yeah it's a clever book but I've read more complex even for the STEM Dork crowd (Hardest STEM dork book was probably Road to Reality by Penrose, where I stalled on several chapters for weeks at a time)

  • Wertheimer [any]
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    2 years ago

    scheduling one full week four months in advance to read The Little Prince

    scheduling the exact same amount of time to read The Brothers Karamazov

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    What is with nerds reading Art of War all of a sudden

    It's a book about how to load stuff onto a horse, it's only philosophical or motivational if you strip it of literal meaning

    "Fight your enemy with your back to the sun". Ah yes this is clearly about achieving business success by remembering where I came from. No you cretin it's about not being blinded by sunlight when you shoot a guy with a longbow

    • Gucci_Minh [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Book from an era when people needed to be told tactical advice like "outnumber your enemy it makes it easier to win" is now being taken as some kind of guide to socialization by PMC dude bros who think every relationship is transactional and every person is someone you need to compete with.

      • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Book from an era when people needed to be told tactical advice like “outnumber your enemy it makes it easier to win”

        You'd think that but the myth of having superiority based around an elite group of soldiers persisted throughout history and even today, to the point that Americans realy believe 1 US Marine = 100 Afghan/Iraqi soldiers. Heck you could go further and point out the entire rhetoric by the Nazis/US against the USSR in WW2 is explicitly denying this fact by dismissing it as "human wave" tactics. Even more pathetic when they start saying the same about Russia and China's army today.

        • Mardoniush [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          Even the US don't really believe it, they just shift focus to having the most logistics and ordinance (and the looting of the Military Industrial complex is eroding even that)

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      1 year ago

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      • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
        hexagon
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        2 years ago

        Going to keep only the Art of War, How to Make Friends and Influence People, and Infinite Jest on my bookshelf. The success-win depressed graduate student mindset.

      • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Yeah all my coworkers recommend it and say it's useful for business stuff

        Did Joe Rogan tell people to read it? It's literally a book of 5th century BC military tactics. The only universal advice it gives is that you should probably make plans before doing something.

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          1 year ago

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          • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            It’s just another book in a long list of books that should not be read as self help

            unless you are a warlord in which case art of war is self help

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              1 year ago

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        • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
          hexagon
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          2 years ago

          I think it's always been the dumb guy's idea of what smart successful people read.

    • Ligma_Male [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      all of a sudden

      art of war has been a sociopathic business guy book for at least 40 years

    • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      It's also an incoherent collection of incomplete fragments since the bindings in medium it was originally written on had all decayed leaving a bunch of broken bits that don't clearly fit together.

      The only broadly applicable bits are the handful of lines that everyone knows anyways, the ones about not fighting unless absolutely necessary and that you should be aware of what you and your opponent are capable of. Well that and the insistence on logistics, like half of it is just variations on "and remember to pack a lunch."

      • BeamBrain [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        like half of it is just variations on “and remember to pack a lunch.”

        I am now imagining Sun Tzu as someone's nagging mother

    • Vampire [any]
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      2 years ago

      Disagree, some is still relevant:

      • flee strengths, strike weaknesses

      • the winner will be whoever makes the most calculations before the battle

      • it's better for your enemy to come to you than you to go to him

  • mittens [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Nice, check out my list for January 2023

    • The very hungry caterpillar
    • The little engine that could
    • War & Peace
    • Green Eggs & Ham
  • betelgeuse [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    I am actually quite profound at reading literature. I have a deep fascination with it and with what humans say. I find it deeply soothing and stimulating to read what one calls a book. I find that it sparks my intelligence prodigiously.

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Reddit would shit themselves if they knew Camus, Huxley, Kafka were socialists. Probably more of the guys on that list.

    Also Fight Club is literally about how straight white men would rather form a terrorist group than go to therapy

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      Its an incredibly sad and genuinely deep book that bemoans the toxic nature of masculinity and the ultimately self-destructive consumerist mindset. When even your effort at rebelling against your corporate overlords turns you into the CEO of a shitty little fascist MLM, what are you supposed to do to rebel against a broken society?

      Of course these Twitter dorks can't look past the part where one dude laughs at another dude with prostate cancer for having "bitch tits".

      • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        The sequel comic has a meta-plot where an legion of angry chud Fight Club fans track down Chuck Palahniuk himself. They worship Tyler Durden, have only seen the movie, and end up writing their own version of the comic where Project Mayhem was good, actually.

        It's not a great comic but I like that the writer himself vented his frustrations

    • Ligma_Male [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Also Fight Club is literally about how straight white men would rather form a terrorist group than go to therapy

      :sicko-wistful:

    • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Being part of a terrorist group won't cost me $160 for every weekly meeting

        • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Have you looked into community counseling in your area? Universities will often offer it to the public for cheap. You'd be getting a fresh graduate who needs counseling hours under their belt to get work, but it's supervised by experienced therapists and it could get you through. It's better than nothing.

    • BeamBrain [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Also Fight Club is literally about how straight white men would rather form a terrorist group than go to therapy

      It's the origin of that turbo-chud "snowflake" meme though (or was that only in the movie)?

      • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        "Unique snowflake" was used in a positive sense before the movie. The novel uses it, but Durden uses it in a disparaging way. He uses it to mean anyone who believes themselves above his orders, because it's feminine to not follow his orders. If you think you're a unique personality, you're actually not, because feminine society brainwashed you with empty comforts. The opposite of a snowflake is what Durden calls a "space monkey." The ones who are willing to follow his orders even if he's not making sense or the orders seem dangerous.

        The entire book portrays feminine things as invalid, or weak. Bob has breasts because he's feminine. Working at an office is feminine. Worrying about how you look is feminine. Masculinity is gained through being a terrorist and hanging off the every word of the big manly guy who punched everyone.

        Chuds read the book (let's be real they watched the movie) and didn't realize the message was satire. I blame David Fincher for casting the attractive Brad Pitt as the villain.

  • booty [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Like half of these you can't possibly spend a week on, and the other half you can't possibly read in only a week lol

    • BeamBrain [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I guess the idea is you spend one day reading the book and the other 6 doing fuckall

  • BlueMagaChud [any]
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    2 years ago

    how does a middle-schooler get this old? It's fascinating how little these kind of people develop

  • Hohsia [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    It always baffles me how this dude (who is Reddit personified) has a podcast millions of people tune into weekly

    Lol failed state

    • GenXen [any, any]
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      2 years ago

      I'm actually kind of low key impressed. I've only ever watched clips of him, and he is the complete antithesis of charisma.

      • NPa [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        We need global De-Redditification now :gamer-gulag:

  • Snackuleata [any]
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    2 years ago

    What's jumping out to me is that he's just reading the first books in the series? He'll read Hitchhiker's Guide but then not read The Restaurant at the End of the Universe? He's reading just Foundation and Dune too? At least follow through my dude. It'll add so much more intellectual points if you can stray a little from the beaten path.

    • flowernet [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      He's reading the 2nd book of the Culture series, so maybe already read the first one.

      • Snackuleata [any]
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        2 years ago

        Maybe, though most recommendations I've heard is to skip the first book, Consider Phlebas, and start with Player of Games. Admittedly I haven't read either.

        • flowernet [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          those are bad recommendations, and everything I've heard says to start with Consider Phlebas, which is valuable since you begin with an outsider's perspective and the Idiran war is central to Culture identity from then on.

        • ennemi [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I've only read Consider Phlebas, and it was pretty good. I think the reason someone would tell you to skip it is that it's narratively detached from the other books.

          • Dyno [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            They're all narratively detached from one another - the only commonality is that they take place in the Culture universe, but you almost never see familiar characters or places.
            If you had to skip any it would probably be Inversions which is essentially not even a Culture novel, save for a brief segment towards the end that implies that it is.

            spoiler

            It's story about middle-ages kingdoms going to war with one another, forming trade agreements and assassinating one-another.
            One of the kings has a personal doctor, and another has a bodyguard - both of which are implied to be Culture citizens who are interfering in this alien society due to differing perspectives on how the Culture should manage contact with more primitive societies.

            • Mardoniush [she/her]
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              2 years ago

              The later books from Look To Windward on have kind of a loose plot and characters start to reoccur more often.

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          1 year ago

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  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Look at this guy who gets to decide his own hours and who can afford underpaid servants to do all of his boring and unintellectual household and child rearing work.

  • Vampire [any]
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    2 years ago

    I never understand when people say "Recommend me a book"

    MFer, there's hundreds of thousands of books in the world, I need some context here, at least give me a starting point.

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
      hexagon
      ·
      2 years ago

      He's an "AI researcher" and a Podcaster, and straight up might be dumber than Joe Rogan, it's incredible.

      • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        STEMbros seem to devalue all non-STEM literature to the point that they can't discern a good book from a shitty one

        These are the people who made Ready Player One a success

        • Mardoniush [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          "There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs"

  • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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    2 years ago

    There's a book I read in elementary school called "Sideways Stories from Wayside School".

    One chapter talks about two girls in an art class. The first girl claims to be an expert artist, because she can draw dozens of pictures inside the course of a single class. Meanwhile, she bemoans her classmate, who will spend the full hour working on a corner of the page only to show up with the same piece of paper and continue working on it the follow day.

    This is what "Read a Book Every Week" guys always sound like.

    • Ligma_Male [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      where's that experiment where the teacher had half the class make as many vases or boxes or something as fast as possible with the last one submitted for a grade and the other half only had to make exactly one thing as well as they could, and the iterative practice half made better quality things?