The average person is conflict avoidant and terrible at negotiating. In general life, this is even a virtue. But it's bad for revolutions. Get more comfortable being stubborn, people
Thank God, it's finally a beneficial use for this personality trait of mine
Tsarists, Russia 1917: "Hey, just delay the revolution a bit. We'll get better :("
Lenin: Nah.
Good thing we haven't set up any of our online spaces to cater to liberal norms of civility and get anyone who disrupts anyone else's way of thinking banned haha
An immediate vote might be a win. A months away vote is a defeat for the student movement here.
It also gives the opps more time to stage some shit which will compel the school to seize negotiations on grounds of “bad faith”
Full agree that if they had actually gotten a vote within the next week, that is an acceptable outcome.
This is horseshit and they're gonna fuck around and find out.
What amuses me the most is that libs would get mad if they saw this thread.
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Y'all don't understand how things work. Don't be naïve. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Etc etc fucking etc
y'all
I'm not one for inspecting people's language choices and I'm not even from the US, so I don't have a dog in this race... but goddamn, libs using y'all annoys me to no end
Edit: I should have been clearer here. There's lots of varieties of US English which use y'all and that's obviously natural, it's just that I've seen lots of wannabe DC staffer coastal lib types using it in a way that feels kinda condescending and annoying
It's a normal part of speech in like half of statesian dialects, including AAVE
Having grown up with it I honestly think it's weirder not to have a gender-neutral second-person pleural pronoun.
Yeah! What drives me nuts is that some libs like using it as a kind of folksy affectation, but I might be reading too much into it
I get ya, funny enough, I feel the same way about "folks". Maybe we just need to start saying "Comrade" publicly instead.
Maybe we just need to start saying "Comrade" publicly instead.
You should have seen the labour party conferences (televised) during Corbyn's party leadership.
Here's a supercut https://streamable.com/vbi0l4
I feel the same way about “folks,” ironically it kinda feels like the liberal version of “comrade” in that they both feel like cosplay
I like comrade having connotations of communist tho, I hope that doesn't get generalized.
There's occasionally a tinge of white liberal urban superiority complex when people from the coasts use it, for sure.
Some cunning linguist could definitely do something interesting investigating the "dialects" of political parties or movements, like a spiritual successor to Victor Klemperer's LTI.
y'all
I grew up in the in the SF Bay Area and at the time when I was a kid to me Marin county was the most "typical" place in California. By "typical" I mean liberal. That was a million years ago back then politics was purely adult stuff. Kids never bothered with and didn't give a crap about.
Now - many decades later - when I'm trying to get the voice right of the most liberal person possible - I try to imagine what a wine mom (Or a wine dad. A micro-brew beer dad?) in a house costing many millions would say on the net as she sipped a $300 wine. Of course - nobody in Marin is going to use y'all in speech. It's as foreign to them as talking to an actual leftist.
Y'all in rich white lib online usage is a patronizing "folksy" word to get the moronic hoi polloi to understand the realities of politics in the real world. Compromise must be the order of the day because blah blah blah blah blah...
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I error checked my humor format - haha. I haven't lived in California for decades. I wanted to see how rich Marin County actually is. Yeap - I'll keep my Marin country wine mom for reference.
10 Richest Counties in California (2023) | PropertyClub
- Santa Clara County
- San Mateo County
- Marin County
- San Francisco County
- Alameda County
- Contra Costa County
- Orange County
- Placer County
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I keep seeing y'all discourse. I grew up in the south and the word is used by everyone as part of the typical dialect. Maybe it's an affectation in some parts of the country but it's just a normal word where I'm from.
That's because you're from the South and Southern American English and Appalachian English are the two biggest dialects that normally use y'all.
They'll hold the session after October 7 which will be full of Mossad propaganda pretty much everywhere. So they'll become more pro-israel after the vote.
I somehow entirely missed the obviousness of why the vote will be in mid or late October because I forgot the number seven.
Rigged? I’m guessing the only vote that takes places and matters is the admin, and they will vote no. There’s no need for rigging lol
And they're about to find out what having an Ivy League education is all about.
All the institutions in the US/allies nearly instantaneously divested from all Russian-related ventures immediately upon Russian military entering Ukrainian territories
The only reason for a delay is to let the "passions" of this moment fade and then simply vote it down in October. If there was an actual intention to divest, they could hold a vote this week, next week, first week of June... October is incredibly far off and there can't be justification for it.
I think it's good that they are at least agreeing to think about/talk about it, but ultimately this is now a non-negotiable topic and I don't think the boomers have realized it yet. Israel must be shut off from the world economically and all the sanctions that liberals drooled over for Russia placed on Israel... immediately. At least until they end (not agree to talk about, but actually end it) their apartheid system, tear down that wall around Gaza, allow a Palestinian state which is connected, and of course end all current and future illegal military aggression against Palestine, end the illegal embargo.
(At the vote in 5 most months) That was an amazing speach sweaty, but unfortunately there's just nothing we can do, we just have to support genocide
Come Octoberthey will get a seat on a committee preparing the vote. After eight months of deliberations a vote is held whether or not to endorse a petition to the board to divest from companies without a CSR policy. The vote will pass and the board will consider the petition but will ultimately reject it due to legal advice about their fiduciary responsibility for the endowment and the risk of antisemitism suits of a zionism-related company is divested from.
They will also announce very publicly that they will raise tuition to an unnecessarily absurd price, and they will emphasize that it was the pro Palestinian side that caused the DOD funding to stop. This causes most students to resent them, then they protest to reduce the tuition. The school will say “we thank the pro Palestine protestors for helping us be a more transparent and democratic institution. As a result, we have heard the recent concerns regarding tuition changes, and we have decided to reinstate our partnership with Israel to secure DOD funding and reduce tuition.”
They did this shit during BLM and Occupy and every other big protest during my lifetime. I know some of these people weren't really around for occupy, but surely they remember BLM
The curse of object permanence is a trait shared only by communists and the Haute Bourgeoisie.
Reminds me of that Malcolm X quote about smiling foxes
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Lack of object permanence is a hell of a thing
Maybe the certain failure will spur some of them to radicalize, realizing the intent was only to dupe them
Maybe they will treat this failure like every other, as a problem of 'bad faith actors', not as a system working exactly as intended
Never let the opposition delay elections.
Trueanon Rules Broken, prepare for consequences.
If these dumbasses get in a helicopter, stalin help them.
