Like there's no contradiction anywhere in here? Wine could be good for parts of your body while the dose could increase your chances of some forms of cancer and damage your liver longterm. This is like how medicines have side effects.
“Wine is good for you” = wine industry bribing a few impartial objective doctors and scientists. The same thing happened for decades with cigarettes.
"Wine is better for people with health problems caused by oxidative stress than beer or liquor" just isn't as catchy a headline.
I think they likely funded impartial studies knowing that they can have people in the media report the positive effects on blood pressure while ignoric the carcinogenic effects and liver damage.
No they kinda have a point, the "glass of red wine a day" thing was actually pushed for years, because they looked at how much longer people lived in European countries with universal healthcare and concluded it must be the wine
:geordi-no: Universal healthcare, longer holiday and sick leave, shorter hours, earlier retirement, even stuff like food and safety standards
:geordi-yes: A N T I O X I D A N T S
I've heard the reason wine drinkers live longer is that people who drink wine to their meals tends to eat better, eat less junk, eat more vegetables, more seafood, that kind of thing.
A glass of red wine with your Double Baconator (with extra cheese sauce) is good for your heart
It’s been well known for a while that there is no safe amount of alcohol consumption. Any potential benefits are negated by the cumulative bad effects of it and the stats about “living longer” or “being happier” are more attributable to social and material conditions rather than alcohol ingestion.
i think in societies which prise alcohol you very much do make a calculus between social/material conditions and health effects. the people who go out for drinks with the boss & get raises-->better health outcomes vs. caring for the liver and facing social/financial consequences, like who is actually better off there?
I don't care. For one, I knew this already. For another, the future is bleak, and I don't intend to meet it sober. Besides, I just like whiskey, even if it doesn't like me.
If whiskey didn't like me why is it so eager to get inside me? Checkmate teetotalers.
Counterpoint: it was also in an awful hurry to get out of me recently lol
that's just being polite. Guest right involves leaving at the appropriate time.
there is nothing polite about the way whiskey leaves my body
The idea that whatever you do must be 100% good and nice is a weird liberal idea I feel. Like I know when I mix up a Zombie I'm not being healthy. I'm simply enjoying myself. I'm ingesting poison because I like it. I know that when I'm climbing I could choose to be safer by not putting myself 400ft off the deck but fuck it climbing is fun.
I don't pretend otherwise. I don't see the need to.
The real takeaway here is that rich lobbyists can keep the truth hidden from the normies for decades
but if some terf wants to chug C O N S E C U T I V E M A R T I N I S that's fine too
I have no proof that she's a terf, but I do have ultra-instinct
What I heard is that the "glass of wine a day increases overall lifespan", which was pushed for a long time. But the reason, apparently, is that the "abstainers" group included many people who are not drinking because they have other severe medical issues - hence the lower lifespan in that group than in the 1 drink group
I love when you run into a medical study where the authors consider experimental design more of a hobby than something they seriously consider.
Turns out that if you eat Henry Kissinger's specific egg salad sandwich you will commit war crimes across Indochina and then never die. I am a smart scientist
I vaguely remember one of the other reasons is a lot of places with a culture of a glass or two of red wine have at least a public option of healthcare.
Yeah, that turned out to be the secret of the Meditteranian diet, too.
God I ove when the media takes some quirk in a study and runs with it for years. Science!
Decide it's good ---> people drink more ---> people notice how it affects their lives and others ---> decide it's bad ---> people drink less ---> the deleterious effects are less noticeable compared to the fun of drunkenness ---> decide it's good ---> ...
I keep seeing wine mom ads for shrooms nowadays. Apparently a couple of states legalized them and now that's becoming the thing.
After the right trip on shrooms I don't think they'd be a wine mom any more.
Seems like they're selling just a bit above micro-dosing. Casual disassociation?💁♂️
But after the wrong trip, they could become the Ur-wine mom.
I largely gave up drinking in my mid 30s, it really is a poison, chronic consumption is bad for your health, and makes you feel horrible, not to mention the brain fog, and for me, esophagus and stomach pain.
Yeah I'm too old for booze I'd rather just smoke weed these days, I don't feel like shit in the morning and it actually helps my nausea instead of making me puke
so upset i missed out on that stuff. had tons of chances to get some during the golden years but i was worried it would be too DMXish (which i despise). and i love dissos normally.
had too much fun with 4-FA. also fuck MVPV only thing i ever flushed
MXE is one of those drugs that is so good it'll ruin your life.
yeah some dissos are just too fantastic i could see that happening. especially something lasting beyond the quick in-and-out of ketamine which was the only one i ever got really well aquainted with.
i do miss being able to commune with Nyx and come out being at peace with so much. only real religious-type experiences i ever had.
Part of me still misses all the different NBOMe you could buy online. I had a lot of fun with 25b back in the day. On the other hand the overdoses were... not good.
missed them and it sounds like that's a good thing. for other sketchiness aMT was wild though. i really regret letting anyone else try it.
I'm sure this has been covered by now but I'm not gonna read 82 comments lol
Liberalism and liberal culture is an outgrowth of protestantism, where you're a bad person if you choose to do things that are bad for you (like drinking or drugs or eating anything unhealthy) — and you're twice as bad if you dare to enjoy the bad thing
The OP of the tweet is literally just trying to justify wanting to do a thing they enjoy even though it's bad for them, without reassessing their values system or having to think of themselves as a hypocrite
TL;DR cognitive dissonance
Oh yeah that's a great point. My whole childhood was steeped in scare tactic PSAs like that, starting from a very young age. The messages themselves could be relatively good (things like "don't play with matches" or "wear your seatbelt") or relatively dumb ("drugs are bad for you" and "stranger danger" come to mind) but I'm sure the graphic and horrifying delivery of "here's what will happen to you every time [presents worst case freak accident scenario]" messed a lot of people up (myself included)
