• kristina [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      :what-the-hell:

      at least choose just a first name. im sure there are plenty of czech trans commies named kristina in the world, im sure they wont find me :shrug-outta-hecks:

      • TerminalEncounter [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        Are you Czech? Okay, I don't know if I've asked this ever, but I remember Czech people telling me in Prague that they'd put carp in their bathtubs for Christmas. And, I swear they were just fucking with me but I met a Czech couple in Canada and they said they did.

        Now, they did try the "smrdíš jako prase" thing on me lol so I didn't think they were completely trustworthy.

        • Wertheimer [any]
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          2 years ago

          I've seen it done in Czech movies, so if it's a hoax it's an elaborate one.

        • kristina [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          Its true. I liked rubbing them and giving them nice food. Don't really do it much anymore but whenever I'm in Czechia for Christmas we still do it. The purpose of the bathtub is to make the water as clean as possible each day in time for Christmas because the carp are in muddy rivers. So the goal is to give them a very clean environment and feed it well which enhances the taste.

          The whole thing is to like, get your kids to care for it and give it its best life before you eat it. Kinda fucked but yeah lmao. I'm pretty sure the Poles and Slovaks do it too.

    • GaveUp [love/loves]
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      2 years ago

      It's really not that big of a deal

      The ClA/NSA can 100% find out the identities and address of anybody on this website if they wanted to

        • Abraxiel
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          2 years ago

          This person also seems to have a youtube channel under his real name, so maybe he's just not fussed about it.

          • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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            2 years ago

            I'm pretty sure this is the same guy that posted a few years ago about starting a college DSA chapter on his campus, that he gave the details of. He's just living out there, and its wild to me.

        • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          yep, surprisingly more easy than people think. always gotta play safe if you're gonna rock the anti-capitalist brand y'know

    • happyandhappy [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      wait this is fucking hilarious i cant even comprehend what amount of psyop or sincere posting is happening :agony-shrooms:

    • Yeat [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      or at least steal a mildly popular rapper’s name 🙄

  • CrimsonSage [any]
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    2 years ago

    The thing I have come to understand is that these people will do and say whatever they need to in order to justify their hated of trans people, logic, empiricism, human decency are irrelevant. For them the mere fact if our existence as anything other than a clearly demarcated subclass of human sex objects, and even then that meager level of existence is predicated on "good behavior," is a monstrously immoral imposition on, not just their but, societies very existence.

    For example, I had a terf I was arguing with on reddit actually use the fact that I was posting in favor of trans rights, in a thread about legal discrimination against trans people, as justification for my own oppression, because the act of speaking out against my own oppression was coecercive and harmful to women and children equivalent to spousal abuse and pedophilia. For these people our mere existence itself is the justification for ANY harmful action against us.

    • MoneyIsTheDeepState [comrade/them,he/him]
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      2 years ago
      :sartre-pipe: quote

      Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

  • TerminalEncounter [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    I doubt it needs to be repeated here, but just FYI the regret rate for gender affirming care is under the regret rate for stuff like knee surgery. As in, more people regret getting surgery on their bum knees than people who got gender affirming care like top surgery or whatever.

    • kristina [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      A total of 27 studies, pooling 7928 transgender patients who underwent any type of GAS, were included. The pooled prevalence of regret after GAS was 1% (95% CI <1%–2%). Overall, 33% underwent transmasculine procedures and 67% transfeminine procedures. The prevalence of regret among patients undergoing transmasculine and transfeminine surgeries was <1% (IC <1%–<1%) and 1% (CI <1%–2%), respectively. A total of 77 patients regretted having had GAS. Twenty-eight had minor and 34 had major regret based on Pfäfflin’s regret classification. The majority had clear regret based on Kuiper and Cohen-Kettenis classification.


      Research by Medical Accident Group found that 65% of people they polled regretted their cosmetic surgery, though 28% were very happy with its results.


      Of 889 studies identified, 73 patient studies and 6 physician studies met inclusion criteria. Among the 73 patient studies, 57.5% examined patients with a cancer diagnosis, with breast (26.0%) and prostate (28.8%) cancers being most common. Interestingly, self-reported patient regret was relatively uncommon with an average prevalence across studies of 14.4%. Factors most often associated with regret included type of surgery, disease-specific quality of life, and shared decision making. Only 6 studies were identified that focused on physician regret; 2 pertained to surgical decision making. These studies primarily measured regret of omission and commission using hypothetical case scenarios and used the results to develop decision curve analysis tools.


      Tl;dr: Cosmetic surgeries have massive regret rates of around 65%. Cancer surgeries can have rates of 14.4% regret, many times for life saving procedures. Trans people have a 1-2% regret rate, with trasmasc bottom surgery being the highest rate of regret at 2-3%. This includes even 'cosmetic' surgeries that cis people would generally have high rates of regret, but are gender affirming for trans people.

    • LaughingLion [any, any]
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      2 years ago

      ive put it this way: the rate of regret for transitioning procedures is less than that for breast augmentation procedures in cishet women

      • corgiwithalaptop [any, love/loves]M
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        2 years ago

        Isn't the regret rate for transitioning procedures something like 0.5% or less of people, and of that small percentage, the prevailing reason for regret is "social stigma?"

        • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          Yeah, it's in that ballpark. Most regretters live in deeply transphobic environments, were cut off by their entire pre-transition support network without being able to find new friends in a local LGBT community, had to endure physical attacks, SA or constant, targeted harassment and things like that to make them regret their transition, or they are so let down by the results that they'll never pass good enough to endure an environment as awful as theirs. And even out of these, many go back on HRT after a while because they realize they need it no matter how much the world hates them for it. These regretters have nothing to do with what the media shows us as detrans activists. They're terribly hurt souls that deserve nothing but sympathy for what they had to go through.

          Next to nobody regrets this because they were "faking it", and i can't rule out that even this subset of regretters actually is trans and is just going into repression again. Basically all of the outspoken regretters being alarmist about a trans craze and asking for more gatekeeping have some weird right wing background were i'm not the least bit surprised they can't decide if they'd hate themselves slightly less as a cis lesbian or as a straight trans dude.

        • Azarova [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          Included in detransitioner numbers are also people who detransition because of financial pressures :amerikkka:

        • LaughingLion [any, any]
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          2 years ago

          I think it's higher? But either way it's such a low number that it's not a significant issue. I personally know someone who regrets it but..... he is a special case. It's a long story but he is a CHUD now and screams about liberal free-loaders while living in the house his parents left him on his inheritance.

  • AsleepInspector
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    2 years ago

    :sus-torment:

    Also, your final comment to that one hyperactive keyboard warrior:

    The "reasonable discussion" you wish to have is if certain people should be treated as equal humans in society.

    :chavez-salute: :cat-trans:

    • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Thats completely true. Transphobes flat out dont care that they are lying. They don't seek out any real info, just repeat stuff they think justifies their hate. Its like the trans athlete stuff. If anyone who thinks its a big deal spent 5 seconds looking into it they'd know that theres no "competitive" advantage for trans athletes over cis athletes, but they never do

  • DoubleShot [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Pretty much everyone other than the left when talking about migrants from the global south: "don't call them 'migrant children' they all look 17 they could already have kids of their own! Call them ADULT MIGRANTS! You're just misrepresenting them to play for sympathy!"

    Same people when a 16 year old trans teen wants top surgery, a surgery similar to cosmetic breast reduction surgery which is done for thousands of cis teens: "the poor babbies! They're taking little kids from the crib and into the O.R. and mutilating them!"

    • GarfieldYaoi [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Also, I fail to understand their logic that trans people want to force kids to be trans, so then they can fuck them. Why would a hypothetical diddler wait for that? By that logic, they should be angry at chasers, not trans people specifically.

      Oh wait, I forgot, it's not about logic, it's them trying to appeal to the cool kid's club by shitting on a group below them in the totem pole.

      • DoubleShot [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        For evangelical Christians (which make up a large # of transphobes), they simply believe no one is actually trans and that gender dysphoria isn't "real". Not unlike how they think being gay isn't "real" - and how by the power of Jesus you can overcome those "urges". Though in recent years there's been a number of evangelicals who will concede maybe you might have a same-sex inclination but it's a sin to act on it.

      • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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        2 years ago

        they don't view trans-ing children as a step to abuse, they view it as abuse in itself. to them, violating gender law is a sexual act.

  • StellarTabi [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    TIL that "children" is a valid word for a group of people that's 100% consenting adults.

    I'm learning lots of English today!

    • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Children's genitals are just constantly on their mind. You could be talking about anything and they'd be thinking about a 10 year old's penis.

  • Ryan_Holman [he/him]
    hexagon
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    2 years ago

    (this was my response)

    Well, Sarah, you really seem to have an issue with people merely existing as trans individuals.

    Unfortunately, history is filled with certain groups being vilified to the point of being viewed as lesser humans (or worse).

    I hope to God your movement never reaches that point.

  • kristina [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    all trans people are children, apparently? :baby-matt:

    also imagine being jewish and using rhetoric that is reminiscent of blood libel :stalin-stressed:

    • GarfieldYaoi [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I'm going to give it at most 2 years until CHUDs start saying:

      "You support LGBT rights? That's antisemitic, sweaty. Old Testament said traditional gender roles good."

  • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    best reply to these people is actually "LMAO die mad, terf", but i still appreciate your effort

  • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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    2 years ago

    Have you taken the vacant position of the one non-anonymous Chapoe?

  • GarfieldYaoi [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    TERFs: Feminists that for whatever reason will defend traditional gender roles to their last breath.

    If all trans people really were diddlers, why would they wait until a kid is trans to diddle them? This is just "video games cause violence all over again!". And forcing surgery on children? Are you deaf or did you just plug your ears when we were explaining bodily autonomy?