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Looking at the comment replies to any Jeremy Corbyn tweet (even ones on non-spicy topics) is always a good reminder of the futility of reformism. The Bourgeois state can and will utilize the most effective propaganda apparatus in history to warp people’s minds in real-time to their own aims. Like here where this dipshit thinks a flimsy accusation thrown at China over Uyghurs is somehow worse than the very-real pogrom with a mountain of recorded evidence coming in as we speak.

    • BeamBrain [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      One could almost get the impression that it was never anything but a silencing tactic

  • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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    2 years ago

    There is countless footage of Palestinian civilians being shot and killed in broad daylight. There is nothing about the Uyghurs except one lunatic's deranged ramblings about his god-given mission to end China.

    Best part was when the UN commissioner went to Xinjiang, found no evidence of a "genocide" and ofc libs only took that as further proof of the see see pee's cruel oppression of the truth. QAnon hours.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      There is countless footage of Palestinian civilians being shot and killed in broad daylight.

      That footage is anti-Semitism.

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I remember the news coverage of that was just footage of him typing random chinese characters into an excel spreadsheet

  • invo_rt [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    worst abuses

    no one had even heard of Uyghurs 5 years ago but Palestinians have been encroached on for almost 80 years.

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      no one had even heard of Uyghurs 5 years

      That's because Chyyyna is a super dystopia panopticon security state that can prevent any of the mass refugee migrations associated with genocide along a long desert border with several countries, but at the same time can be exposed by some grainy security footage of a prisoner transfer and satellite photograph of a middle school.

  • Shoegazer [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    westerners expect Uyghurs to take up RPGs and rebel against the Chinese government, but think those same rebels will sit around while Israel explode their apartments?

  • ElmLion [any]
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    2 years ago

    Corbyn's rise, platform of meaningful change, and immediate pouncing upon by all the establishment until he was literally accused in headlines as a secret ukrainian communist spy, is absolutely the sequence of events that eliminated all traces of faith in electoralism I still had.

    • artificialset [she/her, fae/faer]
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      2 years ago

      I don't know how anyone saw that play out and continued to believe reformism has a path forward. It had the same effect on me too

      • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Despite its many, many, many limits, reformism exists in many places a genuine revolutionary approach does not (US and UK). You either get a little something or you get nothing. Which approach are people more likely to support?

        Leftists should support reforms where they happen (see Sawant's caste discrimination law) but make the case that reforms are not close to enough. You get people to listen to you by improving their material conditions (reforms) and then talk to them about how more comprehensive change is needed (revolution). Ideally, some reforms give the working class a little more breathing room, or roll back a little bit of the state's repressive capacity, and then your revolutionary change is easier.

  • Assian_Candor [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Democracy is when you don’t let people vote because of their race, and the more you don’t let people vote because of their race the more democratic it is

  • TornadoThompson [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Corbyn could tweet what his favourite Pokemon is and mf'ers would still manage to shoehorn in some shite about antisemitism.

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Corbyn: "My favorite Pokémon is Jyn-"

      Me, diving across the stage: "Mr Corbyn Noooo!"

      • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
        hexagon
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        2 years ago

        Britbonger: He's anti-black too!

        That same Britbonger: I'm going to write a poorly-conveyed essay explaining why Golliwogs aren't racist.

    • ClassUpperMiddle [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Stoic is code for "i was broken up with for the first time and also i have some issues managing my feelings since i grew up on media"

        • ClassUpperMiddle [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          I think its pretty normal, break up is a common first sense of grief for young men and depending on the person and the situation it can be very tough. I think stoicism is a good way to enter that world of acknowledging thst you can self-regulate but not something you should linger in

      • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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        2 years ago

        Either that or an expression of just having such privilege that you dont really have any problems that cant be beaten with either your privilege or stoically logicing them away.

    • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Stoicks are just cynics who are afraid to hang their hog in the market like the real OGs. Cowards all of them

  • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Remember if you don't mention every other country who does bad things (provably or allegedly) every time you mention bad things Israel does you are doing an antisemitism. Its right there in that definition they made up.

  • raven [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Of course, how can you even think about Palestine when there are Uyghurs who are being genocided indiscriminately forced into mass detention facilities required to speak Chinese in school!

    Priorities!

    • raven [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I'm once again reminding everyone about the time the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation very successfully passed off a supposed database of detained Uyghurs, which was at least padded with AI generated images, and at worst made up from whole cloth. Of course western media ate it right up, uncritically.

      Just look at the neck on this guy

  • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    My favorite part is that if for some reason corbyn was fully antisemitic he would probably pick up enough votes on the right to be competitive

    • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      To be honest, I don't blame people for wanting to put a sheet of paper with SuccDem Grandpa's name into a box in vague hopes of improving their material conditions, in vain as it is. If anything, Bernie consistently picking up support only to be so blatantly ratfucked by the consolidated establishment has been an excellent source of radicalization.

  • theother2020 [comrade/them, she/her]
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    2 years ago

    I'm sure I don't know "all the facts" but if I had to pick some impossible hypothetical, I'll take Uyghur status over Palestinian. I'm imaging saying that to some of the China-derangement syndrome people I know IRL and how much it would gobsmack them. I have a new sorta-friend, who is Jewish and an acdemic-lib, and I think if I said that, he'd think I was unhinged at a minimum. When I mention China in positive terms (anodyne stuff like the great food, the pretty places), he has to voice his disdain for the AuTHoriTarianiSm.