"Can the government PLEASE make sure that the only information journalists are allowed to receive is whatever the White House press statements say? THANK YOU GOVERNMENT"

  • MemesAreTheory [he/him, any]
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    2 years ago

    Won't someone PLEASE make sure I don't have to actually do my job? I almost had to think critically and investigate something! I much preferred it when I could nod along like a good boy and repeat the right answers back to the teacher :)

  • KnockYourSocksOff [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Lol these people remind me of English discussions where people just reword the discussion question when answering. No originality. No thought.

    Why aren’t these people asking about the CONTENT? Why aren’t they asking about south Korea’s reaction? Or anything? Fucking losers.

    • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Why aren’t these people asking about the CONTENT?

      because their job is to do the opposite. they're stenographers masquerading as journalists.

    • BodyBySisyphus [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Why aren’t these people asking about the CONTENT?

      The ones who do that don't get approved to attend the press briefings

  • darkcalling [comrade/them, she/her]
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    2 years ago

    I'm still strongly considering this might be an engineered limited hang-out. The fact the Ukrainian casualty numbers were so low (and then edited after the release) is suspicious. Indicates either they themselves internally believe the numbers and pass them around (or that the real numbers are more classified still and for some reason lying to intelligence analysts is considered a good idea though considering this guy is just military the CIA may maintain lying to the military is necessary and good to have their support and only CIA may have real numbers and/or disclaimers that say "Ukrainian numbers are bullshit") OR that this whole thing was cobbled together with a mixture of lies and truths and deliberately released. Perhaps both to mislead the Russians and perhaps as bait for more intel agency funding for spying on gaming communities and spying in general, greater surveillance powers to do that to "prevent" this kind of thing kind of like how FBI engineers and grooms terrorists then stops them and holds that out as evidence of why they need funding. Something along those lines. The whole thing just kind of smells too rosy, because if the Ukrainian numbers were higher and more realistic and they claimed it was a real leak, westerners of the more curious variety might begin to question how things are going over there. Whereas this looks bad but doesn't undermine the core narrative that at least the Ukrainians are doing well and we should continue funding them and using them as a proxy in a war against Russia.

    This guy could be a patsy under such a situation. Could have been goaded into it, provided the engineered materials, etc.

    • happybadger [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      What gets me about it is that all classified shit is need-to-know. Government healthcare records are classified at the Secret level. In my old hospital, I couldn't access some on different wards. There were secret squirrel patients that didn't come up in my system at all despite them being right in front of me. Despite theoretically having access to everyone seen at any federal/military hospital, if I searched for any VIP without them being my patient the access attempt would be immediately flagged for review by government monitors who can see everything I did with my ID card-linked computer.

      This guy is a 21 year-old lower enlisted national guardsman. Even if he's in military intel, why does he have access to files about multiple regions instead of explicitly mission-related ones cleared by the people in charge of him? With every keystroke logged and search monitored, how did that not come up for the same kind of review? He has so much more access to information than I'd expect.

      • JuryNullification [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        There’s a specific website on the high-side internet that’s basically Wikipedia. I assume it was something stupid like that. A guy I knew when I was in would show me drone footage of guys peeing in ditches and fields like it was the funniest shit.

        (I never had access to it)

  • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    I wonder if this is the death knell for vpns.

    All Biden and the dems to do is lie and barf up nonsense like lies that vpns need to be banned due to "national security". And if more juice is needed - they lie more. Tiktok something-something Chinese military. And we must ban vpns to stop child pornography. None of the "tech" stuff need be explained and the media will play along.

      • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Expectation: there will be a carveout for US companies using vpns

        Reality: the language will be so broad that a bunch of protocols and networking equipment is technically illegal

          • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Yeah, my thought was if there are any parts of the lower level networking that arguably acts similarly to a vpn. Like it would be extremely funny if everyone's router suddenly became illegal.

      • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        The proposed Tiktok legislation shocked the hell out of me. I know what some democrats are so fucking stupid that they actually fear any "advanced" tech like vpns because of China/Russia/Iran/etc Cold War 2.0 hysteria. But also I assume that a bunch of dem senators hope to get some entertainment-related sinecures after they leave congress. The Recording Industry Association of America will piss itself laughing if anti-vpn legislation were to pass.

        ---

        An aside - My favorite go-to online grocery shopping sites makes me do two things to use it. Use Chrome. It only works smoothly with Chrome. And I must disable my vpn.

          • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            It's funny what sites block my vpn. A couple of small guitar forums do. I guess whoever manages the sites is worried about Ddos attack. Or a more colorful story would be an insane asshole kept spamming the sites via vpns. I always wonder what's happening behind the scenes.

            There's a insane asshole spammer at chess.com. He was clogging up chats with huge copy and pastes. The site blocked copy and paste for everybody. I find that super-annoying. But then he was back - again somehow spamming the huge copy and pastes. I wonder how. And then he was gone. But then he came back yet again and he somehow figured out to break the "ignore" function. If you ignore him - it doesn't matter - you still see his huge copy and paste spam.

            The site must have the most inept programmers ever. I've never even heard of that for a site people pay for with their credit cards. Does anybody there have any idea what they're doing? It certainly was one reason I decided to stick with a free account. I'm not giving them my credit card number.

              • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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                2 years ago

                Ah.

                I had a tricky question to ask so I wrote out the 50 words in a text editor to pop into the chat area and then I learned that the site intentionally broke copy and paste.

    • BeamBrain [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      And the libs, as they always do, will cheer the gutting of civil liberties because the media's given them a scary foreigner to hate.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      I wonder if this is the death knell for vpns.

      Going to obtain better information security by abolishing the most well-established method for safe data transfer? Uh... good luck.

      All Biden and the dems to do is lie and barf up nonsense like lies that vpns need to be banned due to “national security”. And if more juice is needed - they lie more. Tiktok something-something Chinese military. And we must ban vpns to stop child pornography. None of the “tech” stuff need be explained and the media will play along.

      We can't just "ban vpns". That's not any kind of practical solution. We made a big whiny noise about TikTok until it fell off the public radar, which suggests that this was more about doing a series of photo-ops than changing public policy. And of all the ways to combat child pornography...

      To quote Alice Coldwall-Kelly's critique of the British Parliament, "The only thing we can talk about doing is the impossible".

  • PandaBearGreen [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Press: 'uh will the u.s. government completely control and monitor the internet to stop this lapse in security?' We fucked.

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Can't wait to find out what the new patriot act will do and how excited every journalist will be to sell it.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      It is simultaneously this cowardly display of boot licking, this endless "Why won't Joe Brandon keep us safe?!" haranguing, and a pure exercise in CYA as everyone pretends perfect information security is a thing we simply haven't tried yet.

  • Bay_of_Piggies [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Reminds me of how Wikileaks became the Julian Assange show, just as the leak that the US government was spying on everyone became a human interest story.

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer