• Assian_Candor [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Literally what liberals want, they just always pussyfoot around it. “Something needs to be done” etc

      • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        It's gonna be real fucked up when this shit polls well with suburban boomers and Biden adds basically the same policy to his platform

        • SoyViking [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Liberals are going to convince themselves that this is the compassionate and humane thing to do ("Why do you oppose the temporary overflow facilities for people experiencing houselessness? Do you want these poor people to sleep in the streets?"). The final holdouts will be convinced by a couple of interviews with sympathetic looking white women who talks about how they are grateful to get a new start through the programme.

        • DoubleShot [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          I am white and from the suburbs. Never in my life have I met a fellow white suburbanite who wouldn't go along with this, either enthusiastically or quietly supportive.

      • Lovely_sombrero [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        They are already doing that in a lot of liberal cities and suburbs, but without the final step. Being homeless is hard and practically illegal, but there are no camps yet.

        • stalin_but_trans [she/her]
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          1 year ago

          I vaguely remember seeing videos of "designated camping spots" in some west coast city. I imagine the liberal approach to homeless concentration camps will be more of an indirect approach than literally rounding homeless people. They'll increase policing against homeless people in all areas except these designated "camping" spots until it gets so violent that houseless people have no choice but to self-admit themselves there, and then they'll police the borders of these camps as if they were prison camps. And liberals will hail this as the humane solution because "they chose to be there" as if our violent society hasn't left these people any other choice.

          • FALGSConaut [comrade/them]
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            1 year ago

            It'll be Star Trek sanctuary districts but without the outrage against them :agony-deep:

        • jackmarxist [any]
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          1 year ago

          Well the homeless concentration camps will be the closest thing to a capitalist mass housing project.

      • CarmineCatboy [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        The Bell Riots are a prophecy.

        i hope the prophecy is a bit versatile this time around because the original creed relies on people being empathetic on the internet

      • goboman [any]
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        1 year ago

        Did you know in NuTrek that BLM and Trump supporters trigger/are part of a second American civil war that leads into WW3?

        Bell riots, second civil war, WW3, eugenics war. The lore for that time period in Trek is a mess. They're all smooshed together and so vaguely defined.

        Stop trying to keep the timeline contemporary Rick Berman you fuck.

        • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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          1 year ago

          This is one of those rare things you can quite blame Berman for. It's mostly due to most of that stuff being g made up in the 60s

          • ssjmarx [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            I think it would be easier to just say that the Trek timeline from 1960-present is an alternate history than to constantly retcon details about the setting as new things happen. Plus the way modern Trek comments on modern political issues is really, really bad so I wish they'd stop.

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        1 year ago

        at least the various fictional governments involved would provide the people in the Sanctuary Districts with food and water rations, physical buildings to live in, and make an effort to keep legitimately

        You're just describing prisons.

        That's what the Sanctuary Districts ultimately became. Chunks of the city that had fallen into slum conditions were simply nationalized and repurposed as prison grounds for the unemployed.

        Their plans seem to be to force homeless people to simply die of exposure out of eyeshot of wealthy people.

        A lot of the plan involves scoping up homeless people and shoveling them into post-COVID jail vacancies. But even then, we're running into the UK dilemma of not wanting to actually spend more money on jails. So what we end up with is much more akin to shoddily built and staffed concentration camps, where people just languish until they're released or they expire.

        We might be moving in the Sanctuary City direction if housing prices every collapsed. But right now, real estate is just too valuable to be wasted on new jails.

          • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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            1 year ago

            those fictional prisons are far more humanely run

            :-/

            I mean, its all fiction, so I can't really argue the degree to which fictional people were fictionally treated. That said, I think you overstate the theory that these places were "humane" by any standard.

            what real American leaders are proposing

            What current prisoners in my own home state of Texas are suffering exceeds what "real American leaders" are proposing. Even the fucking guards in these prisons are passing out from heat stroke. People are dying from malnutrition, from dehydration, from the fucking mumps... Nobody seriously wants to talk about the absolutely hellish conditions of our prison system.

            I'll cede that the fictional utopian hellscape of DS9's pre-history was marginally less bad. But all that really proves is how disconnected from prison policy in the US we've all become.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Putting barbed wire fences and machine guns around a big group of people in the open and letting them starve to death is one of the most cost effective ways to do mass murder.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        The most depressing thing about Past Tense is that, as horrible as the situation is, at least the various fictional governments involved would provide the people in the Sanctuary Districts with food and water rations, physical buildings to live in, and make an effort to keep legitimately-dangerous criminals out.

        THAT'S VUVULZULA COMMUNISM :grillman:

  • ComradeChairmanKGB [comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    Imagine a nation that could plan more than a single fiscal quarter ahead.

    Imagine what they could build. Entire cities probably. And the lesser nations would have to cope and seethe, creating slanderous terms like "ghost cities" in response.

    USA greatest ever.

    • AHopeOnceMore [he/him]B
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      1 year ago

      That wouldn't serve the purpose of marginalizing (dehumanizing) the economic underclass and using that violence as a threat to every other worker.

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    One year after any implementation of that plan:

    "The poors are too expensive to maintain in camps! We need a final solution!" :scared-fash:

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    I have nothing cute to say about this.

    Fuck "lesser evil" shit. The nazis are nazis.

  • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    :oh-shit: and here I am looking to live in my car for a while as a transitional situation

  • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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    1 year ago

    Finally! A tough on "crime" candidate!

    We truly have searched long and hard for such a radical new direction in politics.