God I actually love this movie lol when I put it in a vacuum and pretend its not set in actual world history. Also "In the Dark of the Night" slaps. But the playing with actual history and what it says about the Russian revolution is so fucking silly.

  • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    The most :joker-troll: thing about it is the same director previously made another movie that literally opened with the protagonists fleeing antisemitic Tzarist pogroms for the US.

  • rubpoll [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    I like how The Last Tsar on netflix openly acknowledges that Nicky 2 is committing a pogrom against the Jews over the economic crisis he and the rest of the staunchly anti-democratic literally-feudal ruling class caused. The last Czar of Russia was committing a pre-industrial holocaust, the documentary openly acknowledges that in a throwaway line, and then spends the rest of the doc mourning his grand finale. Oh no, I hate when Hitler with a crown gets done in by the Reds before he can industrialize and really become a monster, oh no, oh nooo :brainworms:

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      The Libs would be mourning Hitler if he had a sparkly enough dress on.

      • Farman [any]
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        2 years ago

        Give it a few more years. Those hugo boss suits are going to turn the libs eventually.

    • BeamBrain [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Liberals and hating socialists more than fascists, name a more iconic duo

    • Goblinmancer [any]
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      2 years ago

      Robespierre watching modern libs crying over a dead monarch

    • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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      2 years ago

      How can you not mention that the whole thing ends with one of the historian guys deciding to call the execution of the tsar family some shit like "the most cruel/brutal/senseless crime in modern history"

  • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Honestly, the fact that it doesn't even mention the Bolsheviks makes it not anticommunist by 90s standards lol

    • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      i heard the screenwriters had considered lenin for the villain originally, and it's blatantly anticommunist since rasputin uses his green faeries to let a bunch of bolsheviks into the winter palace at the beginning. a bolshevik even hits anastasia's future love interest to the ground with the butt of a rifle right after he helps her escape through the servant's quarters

  • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Going on memory from 8th grade history class, the ultimate cause of the Russian Revolution was that the inhabitants of Russia had no confidence being ruled by a cuckold.

  • corgiwithalaptop [any, love/loves]
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    2 years ago

    Anastasia should have gotten the wall.

    Not my old coworker but the cartoon one.

    Yes I know that is insane and I will not be replying to responses, i have inhaled too much kief

  • thelastaxolotl [he/him]M
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    2 years ago

    I think its funny that disney decided to re-released The Little Mermaid on the same week as anastasia just to fuck fox animation over, when i was a kid i liked the songs

  • neo [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Hopefully when the Lemmy migration happens and I can access old posts I can find my review and the subsequent discussion about this movie that I posted here a while ago. It's inaccessible for now, but the thread was called "Anastasia sucks" https://hexbear.net/post/235929 <- there.

    • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Would be interesting to see, even though I admit to liking the movie in spite of the stupid historical shit and anticommunism.

      • neo [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I remember disliking it for more than just that. IIRC it had pacing issues and I didn't like Rasputin's sniveling animal sidekick. His crime was being annoying. Hopefully the post will be resurrected because I sort of ejected the film from my brain and don't remember the details anymore 🙃

        • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
          hexagon
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          2 years ago

          I like the animation and the songs which can kind of be enough yaknow? I dont tend to notice pacing issues in movies. My friend had to point out how badly paced Brave is after we watched it together and thats like one of the most egregious examples of bad pacing out there. Bartok doesn't bother me but I think its weird he got his own spinoff.

          • neo [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Yeah, I agree that the animation was well done. I like this era of 90s animation where they haven't yet converted everything to computer work, so it has kind of this peak quality of human hand animation effort and potential. I think that stuff is really cool.

          • AbbysMuscles [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            Bartok also has the distinction of having an impossible-to-imitate voice

        • ssjmarx [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          animal sidekick

          This was the absolute BANE of kids' animated films of that era. My favorite one of those films, The Hunchback of Notre Dame, has three of those fuckers.

          • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
            hexagon
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            2 years ago

            Yeah I usually don't mind them but the Gargoyles are the worst. I otherwise absolutely adore that movie but the Gargoyles really bring it down.

            • ssjmarx [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              The Bells of Notre Dame - 6.8M views

              Out There - 3M views

              Topsy Turvy - 1.1M views

              God Help The Outcasts - 1.2M views

              Heaven's Light/Hellfire - 1.8M views

              A guy like you - 492k views

              It's got fewer views than a couple of the instrumental tracks, lmao.

  • Mardoniush [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    The musical version replaces Rasputin with a Cheka officer and has The Neva Flows which is supposed to be anti communist but accidentally slaps.

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    This movie is basically just several of the characters from Aladdin but rehashed. Rasputin is Jafar. His parrot is replaced with a bat instead. Uhh some other stuff but it's been 2 decades since I saw it last so I don't remember.

  • ssjmarx [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I actually love this movie

    I'm a sucker for a good song in a movie, which leads me to this situation a lot.