Over the past several months Ana Kasparian and Cenk Uygur have taken increasingly transphobic stances, especially regarding trans women in sports but also more generally when it comes to trans youth getting access to gender affirming care.

They have begun to lash out at anyone that calls them out on where they are wrong and basically refused to learn. Recently Ana went so far as to defend Jesse Singal, who is very well known as a transphobe.

  • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    TYT have shit takes all around. transphobia, anti-bail reform, vulgar anti-imperialism (muh tax dollars argument instead of focusing on how we're KILLING PEOPLE). whaddya expect. not even succdems. "Justice democrats" or some shit. barely even radlibs. Even literal nepotism case hasan piker admitted his uncle is cringe when he went on the deprogram lol

  • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    At this point I feel like we should have a bot that posts the "Social Democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism" quote every time Cenk, Ana, or TYT gets mentioned

    • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      i would say calling them social democrats is generous. and that's not a compliment to social democrats.

      • rubpoll [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        They were soc dems under the Obama administration. Now they're Hillaryesque jackals who don't even pretend to be Left of anything.

  • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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    1 year ago

    Anna and Chunk are proglibs, not leftists or even demsuccs anyway. And clearly, they're too fucking self centered to actually listen to trans people.

    • Rojo27 [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Honestly they're getting to the point where I'd say they aren't even proglibs, just good ol' regular libs.

      • SerLava [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Yeah progressives might or might not fight for trans people, but they really do not usually just go on transphobic tirades across international media

  • Kuori [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    cis people with opinions on trans rights have no right to speak. the next time one of them feels the need to open their mouth it should be to put a gun inside

  • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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    1 year ago

    funny how decades of being told that you are the absolute most left wing figure in politics will make you adopt expressly right wing positions

    • rubpoll [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      "I'm to the left of Ronald Reagan, and I support concentration camps for some immigrants, so that must be a leftist position then..."

  • D61 [any]
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    1 year ago

    How did any of these people hang on that long, TYT went downhill really fast after that Clinton staffer gave them a few million bucks.

  • Infamousblt [any]
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    1 year ago

    Cenk has always been a reactionary this shouldn't surprise anyone

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    Younger leftists learning the lesson that this is what people mean when they say Democrats and Liberals aren't the left

  • foobBar [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    why are people always so eager to die on the jesse singal hill

    Pretty sure she cited listening to Blocked and Reported and not hearing anything transphobic. IIRC that's the same podcast that got the slop king banned from here (the guy with the torrent feeds of all the left podcasts). It's treat defenders all the way down folks

    cenk I'm not surprised, ana always seemed a bit better but I guess not. Their takes on trans issues are, or at least started out as, just uneducated and often falling into right wing bait, but their outright refusal to learn, and leaning into the right wing ragebait when confronted took it to a whole other level. They could honestly have most of the same disagreements and while they'd still get some justified hate from trans people, it'd be 10x less harmful, if they just learned a bit more about the topic and then aired their disagreements in a way that didn't platform transphobic fascists all the time.

  • usa_suxxx [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    Not particularly surprisingly given the content that got posted from their early days with their feud with Dore. Anyone with a long history of work at TYT should be regarded as sus.

    • charly4994 [she/her, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Wow, a non-ironic "people like you are hurting the trans movement" from an ally.

      God how I hate allies, they come in and act as if their opinions are the only ones that matter, that to win our rights we need to appeal to the worst of them otherwise "nobody will like us." If we call them out on their shit then they'll act as if we're hurting the cause because we need them so much more than they need us.

      The oppressor doesn't get to dictate the demands of the oppressed.

  • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    I remember back in like 2009 The Amazing Atheist was shitting on Cent and TYT for being transphobic. So, it's been a while.

    • rubpoll [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      I remember back in 2009 when Cenk was explicitly in favor of female high school teachers raping male students as young as 14, as long as he thought the teachers were hot.

      I'm not exaggerating in the slightest. Every time a story of an adult woman committing statuary rape of a minor came up, Cenk demanded to see a photo of her, and would declare it 100% okay as long as she was hot.

      He acted like it was a moral crisis to care about it at all - as long as they were hot - if he thought they were ugly he supported them going to prison.

      • Moss [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        This kind of thing is disturbingly common in men, where they hear about a boy being raped by an adult and just go "damn he's lucky".

    • autismdragon [he/him, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      The Amazing Athiest is pro-trans? Thats surprising to me. Isn't he an anti-feminist weirdo (or at least was back then? No idea if he's changed or anything. Is he even still making content?)

      • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        The Amazing Atheist was, to his credit I suppose, always pretty pro-trans, at least as far back as when I started watching him back in the late '00s. But yes, he was (is?) also anti-feminist, and was into the anti-sjw shit for a while if I recall right.

        They do still have a channel and make streams and stuff I think, but they just go by TJ Kirk now. I don't know what they're like at this point in their life. I recall an FD Signifier video that brought him up and made a favorable comment about him basically doing a face-turn, for whatever that's worth.

  • Poison_Ivy [comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    They’re doubling down btw

    https://twitter.com/cenkuygur/status/1677145391421337601