comments, read at you own risk.So the unions are endorsing a president that broke a rail strike before it could even begin. Brilliant electoral strategy
Look she listened to the "communities and voices" that she cried over not being able to talk to about funding the Iron Dome and they said back Biden
This is basically the strategy for America. The two party system is there for this reason. To have "elections" between two corpo candidates where one of them is batshit insane and the other one hides his/her insanity.
The Washington blob got to her. Time for a primary challenge from the left.
There are 200+ seats where the resources for a challenge from the left would be better spent.
There is no serious candidate to the left of Biden, so her choice is this or picking a fight over nothing, with nothing to gain.
She endorsed Bernie in 2020.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/19/politics/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-endorses-bernie-sanders/index.html
Ah well then I guess she's worse than I was expecting, given that she's gone from endorsing someone good in 2020, to now this
This is just the Parenti quote applied to AOC. You've decided that you're going to criticize her whatever she does.
Endorsing Bernie in 2020 makes you criticize her?
Come on, you learned objectively good information about her and turned it into an attack. That's exactly what Parenti is calling out in his "unfalsifiable orthodoxy" quote.
Endorsing Bernie in 2020 makes you criticize her
No. It's her endorsement of Biden that is the latest thing I am criticizing
Hate how the Washington blob keeps doing this. I will be sure to vote harder next time
meh i think this is just out of laziness. who else is she going to endorse, Cornell West? That would've been kinda funny ngl
i think not endorsing anyone might've been the best choice :yea:
At first I read AOC endorses Bernie and that would be equally funny in its own way.
Not going to lie I did the exact thing when John Delaney dropped out and endorsed Biden and I was very confused
AOC always sucked. The signs were already there when she tweeted this bullshit after McCain died. Keep in mind she wasn't even a politician back then, so there was absolutely no obligation for her to comment on any politician's death, never mind a politician who belonged to the opposing party, represented a state that's halfway across the country from New York, and served in a different part of the legislature that she was trying to run.
My greatest fear is that she's going to be Obama 2.0, and I think enough gen xers, millennials, and zoomers will fall for her fake bullshit just like previous generations fell for Obama. If she gets elected, you can wave goodbye to any advances made by actual socialists as they're undermined under her before being completely swept by the inevitable fascist backlash. She and Obama before she represents an insidious form of domestic counterinsurgency.
before being completely swept by the inevitable fascist backlash
I wish we got actual leftist policy before the fascist backlash rather than neoliberal policy called leftist and then the same fascist backlash.
You realize we formally elected the former head of the cia to the presidency like 30 fucking years ago, right?
AOC interned in high school for Teddy Kennedy. Before you try to justify that may I remind you she was living near NYC at the time.
Yada yada yada, I'm pretty sure her dad, who is a fucking ghost in terms of having left a single trace of his existence on this earth, did wet work for western intelligence services.
Oh and let's not forget there's a whole ass documentary showing how AOC was focus grouped from a bunch of other promising photogenic millenials to astroturf anybody to the left of Nixon. The DNC saw what happened to the old guard Republicans in the 90s with Gingrich and took care nobody would ever stand a chance.
The "AOC is CIA" stuff is just the most threadbare speculation. You say on one hand you don't know anything about her dad (why would you? what can you dig up on some random other rep's parents?) but then in the same sentence say you're pretty sure he was a CIA assassin.
Fedjacketing has to have at least some basis in reality or else you're just doing the feds' job for them.
She could have pondered endorsing the orb mother.
But in the DNC there is uh - Biden, Williamson and then.. Kennedy.
Only reason not to endorse Biden is because he may drop.
The wiser move, but she wants that DNC money, even though they will try to primary her again.
I'm waiting for the "most progressive president since FDR" copypasta to get posted
Why bother trying to prove it at this point? I'm using the word veracity to describe saying it. I know that word.
I think they post it as a way to keep convincing themselves of it, because deep down they either have doubts or know it's bullshit
Since FDR? Friend I'm sorry to say you're behind the times, people in that thread are calling him the most progressive president in US history
Important part for me is that she has a shit ton of supporters, a lot are young which Biden desperately needs and since she’s pretty vocal about the issues she doesn’t agree with Biden on hopefully the people threatening to not vote will get it through their heads that they can still vote for him and not be ‘sellouts’ I can’t imagine how much of a fucking catastrophe it will be if a Republican wins and ends up getting to nominate more psychopaths to the Supreme Court
We're still one tent. One family. As a moderate i like AOC. She brings in fresh ideas, fresh faces and some much needed energy. Just like Bernie. Progressive isn't a dirty word to be feared.
Can I ask you what in particular makes you a moderate?
You can! But that's a pretty long topic. Foreign policy wise I'm in the hawk camp. Economics wise, and overall handling of day to day governance, I fall along the moderate scale. I'm more like to vote for Obama, Hillary and Biden then a more Progressive name. Things like Education, technology, climate change and civil rights I tend to lean bit more towards the progressive side. For President and governors, I'm looking for moderates. For Congresspeople, I'll general try to pick progressives.
This is what it looks like when your "movement" is neutered and cannibalized, this is the only result of entryism, complete negation of all left-wing ideology and the maintenance of the status quo, or in this case a total rightward shift
Fuck AOC and fuck Bernie
Foreign policy wise I'm in the hawk camp. Economics wise, and overall handling of day to day governance, I fall along the moderate scale.
You're not a moderate you're a fucking ghoul. You want to keep bombing brown people are reaping the rewards, and you also hate poor people in your own country.
Where are the midwestern democrats to throw these people in cornfield gulags when you need them
I've been listening to West Wing Thing again, and it is crazy how they talk about her. Like she isn't establishment, and isn't a cynical PMC. It is hilarious when they compare her to Pelosi like she isn't gunning to replace her.
She started out pretty promising, I think that's her only remaining purchase. Didn't seem like she'd totally capitulate to the libs. Which is what endorsing Joe Biden in fucking July is doing. JFC, RFK Jr can have the extra quarter of a percent from AOC withholding an endorsement for the primaries. It's a treat, for CIA killed his dad and uncle.
I feel bad for AOC stans. Republicans get to transgress from the base over and over again and AOC stans/dem stans just have to take what they can get and pretend it rules.
If you're gonna participate in national politics, you kinda HAVE to be a Republican because they're the only ones allowed to get things done. Nixon made the EPA, Bush nationalized the privately owned airport security industry. You only get to make real moves if you're a Republican. The fact that she's a Dem means even if lightning struck and she got power, the system simply wouldn't let her do the thing.
