https://nitter.1d4.us/9mmballpoint/status/1677408475553443842
https://twitter.com/9mmballpoint/status/1677408475553443842
Can I get healthcare? No
Can you fix infrastructure? No
Can you fight climate change? No
Can you protect LGBT? No
Can you keep abortion legal? No
Can you do something about the supreme court? No
Can you stop violence against immigrants? No
Can you help struggling minorities? No
Can you help struggling majority? No
Can you increase labor protections? No
Can you help unions? No
Can you stop war? I guess he did do the one
Can you make city design better? No
Can I ever afford a house? No
Can you make student debt less ridiculous? No
Can you stop creating conflict with China? No
Can you keep a campaign promise? No
Can you help with spiraling rent costs? No
Can you help put the cost of living in line with salaries? No
Can you stop exploiting the third world? No
Any social safety nets? No
Stop underfunding government programs before privatizing them? No
Arts and athletics in schools? No
Reduce violence in schools? No
Defund the police? No
So, this is all stuff that doesn't necessitate communism which is what I ultimately want. Why am I voting for you? Your values more closely align with a conservative than they do mine
Where's that big lib list of Biden's supposed accomplishments? I remember they were effectively meaningless and could be disassembled point by point.
I'm not saying Biden has never done a good thing, but that's not really a stirring sentiment. The bad things list is much longer than the good things list, anyhow.
Where's that big lib list of Biden's supposed accomplishments?
I was just searching for the same thing and happened on this comment. Here it is if you still care.
Can you keep a campaign promise?
I believe you'll find that nothing has substantially changed, Jack
Except the whole multipolar world accelerated through Biden's fascist warmongering against Russia
X to doubt https://www.newsweek.com/nancy-pelosi-says-us-needs-strong-republican-party-1779854
I don't think they'd do this shit if they could
A lot of Democratic leadership (at least at national levels) thinks like that, but look at state politics -- there are plenty of examples of Democrats gaining control and making sure they keep it. And while state Democrats have plenty of problems, you do pretty frequently get genuinely good things out of some of them. Look at what you can get when you land even a liberal Democrat at the top of one of those states:
Walz oversaw the 93rd Minnesota Legislature, which was in session from January to May 2023. The first legislature to be fully DFL-controlled since the 88th Minnesota Legislature in 2013-15, it passed several major reforms to Minnesota law, including requiring paid leave, banning noncompete agreements, cannabis legalization, increased spending on infrastructure and environmental issues, tax modifications, codifying abortion rights, universal free school meals, and universal gun background checks.
I can't wait to move to Wisconsin hope it doesn't flip red by then
Luckily in my state we got a democratic governor and he is real real 😍🤩😍 so the women ways vote for him he our Kennedy made weed legal by executive order
Didn't even know governor's could do that
uwu the poor little democrats want to help but the big mean republicans stop them at every turn
I didn't know that Leiberman, Sinema, Manchin, and Pelosi were Republicans. Weird. TIL I guess.
The working class in the US doesn't even vote though. Look at graphs correlating election participation with annual income. The US is a one party state of capital, with two factions that appeal to different facets of the upper class and their middle class comparadors. The Democrats appeal to PMC liberals with office jobs in the city, the Republicans appeal to jet ski and boat dealership owners. And the candidate with the most votes doesn't even win the election a third of the time! The split of congress into senators and representatives, the fact that political parties can directly influence the judicial branch of government at the highest level in the supreme court, it's all inherently undemocratic!
The specific combination of factors in the historical formation of U.S. society—dominant “biblical” religious ideology and absence of a workers’ party—has resulted in government by a de facto single party, the party of capital. The two segments that make up this single party share the same fundamental liberalism. Both focus their attention solely on the minority who “participate” in the truncated and powerless democratic life on offer. Each has its supporters in the middle classes, since the working classes seldom vote, and has adapted its language to them. Each encapsulates a conglomerate of segmentary capitalist interests (the “lobbies”) and supporters from various “communities.”
American democracy is today the advanced model of what I call “low-intensity democracy.” It operates on the basis of a complete separation between the management of political life, grounded on the practice of electoral democracy, and the management of economic life, governed by the laws of capital accumulation. Moreover, this separation is not questioned in any substantial way, but is, rather, part of what is called the general consensus. Yet that separation eliminates all the creative potential found in political democracy. It emasculates the representative institutions (parliaments and others), which are made powerless in the face of the “market” whose dictates must be accepted.
- Samir Amin, Revolution from North to South. Link
America is a single party state, but with typical capitalist extravagence there are two of them
- Probably Gritty or one of the Gravel Ronin
This is something I have suspected of being true but haven’t yet seen the hard data. Nearly every American (even those who don’t vote) see election results as broadly indicative of the populace’s preferences. That whether 20% of the people vote or 70%, that’s seen as a representative sample so we just assume that non-voters would break along similar lines. But I really don’t think that’s true, I don’t know. But this doesn’t even account for the millions of people who live and work here but aren’t allowed to vote (undocumented workers).
Even if the America electoral system somehow produced the results it claims to, I still don't think it would represent people's broad interests. Americans think deeply about their ideology about 5 minutes per year. People vote completely on vibes and at no risk to themselves.
Places that have more participation based democracy, like Cuba, have citizens actually attend meetings and work out policy together. There are multiple rounds of referendums and the policies impact more than just which person goes in what chair.
In America you're clicking a name and a party after standing in line once every two years. There's a correlation with winning and being named at the top of the ballot form too. I have to believe at least 5% of people are voting completely at random too.
Lol someone in the replies told him to read Marx and he replied “read dune” what a fucking brain genius
What's that even supposed to mean? Marxism turns you into a giant immortal worm? Damn, it's a good thing volume 3 was never finished then.
Biden has done such amazing things so far like protecting women's rights and cancelling student debt.
I was skeptical at first, but when he cured cancer thats when I knew he was my guy
Ah yes, the commie just randomly decided not to vote Dem, nothing the Dem party did caused the commie to lose faith in them. Nope, it's all the commies fault. 🤡
Uft. RBS has been swinging some no-hitters lately.
How do people not get at this point that the Dems are only responsive to right wing/fascist voters and they're not very responsive to them.
It doesn't matter if we say "I won't vote" or "I will vote" or "I will vote, but on this condition", the Dems are going to do the same bullshit regardless, and it's going to suck and make everything worse and legitimize the actions of the fash regardless.
Like what's this even supposed to mean? Yeah, we're not going to work with them, they've fucked us over, betrayed everyone we care about, and are driving us off a cliff to our doom. The GOP is technically doing that faster, but neither offers any opportunity to stop either of those things from happening. And if we don't work with them? They'll still do the exact same thing.
Idfk, like what the fuck do people want with us? Like bruh just stop being a shitty little wimp and stuff the ballot box if you need more votes. You don't need us. The only thing holding you back from victory is your absurd insistance of following bs rules only in regards to your conduct with the fascists.
Like all we are to them is warm bodies capable of casting a vote, and they firmly believe they own that hour or six hours or whatever the fuck it takes to cast a vote, and they're outraged they're being denied what they own. Negotiation? Compromise? Consessions? Impossible. They'd much rather lose "The most important election of our lives", again, than give up anything at all no matter how petty. And from what I recall there's never been enough of us to matter, they always lose doing some absolutely stupid shit, like picking Hildawg in the first place or not visiting key states or just being weird fucking ghouls on a hot mic.
Like they're bitching at us for not saving Roe when Obama just... didn't push a law on abortion, he didn't seat a SCOTUS justice, he liquidated the entire Democrat national street level operation, he didn't have Bader-Ginsburg put in a home, he didn't do anything. He sat in the White House playing basketball for four years.
They lionize RBG when she fucked everyone with the stupidest and most childish display of supreme hubris, then self-owned by dragging her cancer riddled corpse to officiate a wedding during a world-historic pandemic she was uniquely vulnerable too.
Even if it didn't matter, a bunch of Democrats still voted to confirm Crying Neal for no reason I can see.
Like they have all the cards, all the power, control over the institutions, guns, drugs, money, lawyers, cops, and god knows what else. Like fine, you want my vote? Slip me a thousand bucks under the table. Ferry a bunch of trans people out of the South. Pass literally any good legislation. Call off the cops from beating the shit out of us. Do anything. Make any concession. Buy some fucking votes. Commute a bunch of convictions. Release some political prisoners.
But nothing. They won't do shit. They just yell at us. Shit, they're still yelling at Nader.
Fuck, the last significant major interaction I had with the democratic party was when they rolled armored cars in to my neighborhood and stationed five thousand soldiers, making Minneapolis the most heavily occupied city in the world for a few days, to crush any possibility of an uprising if the cop who murdered Mr. Floyd was released. Like bro, maybe don't point rifles at me to protect the gang of murderers, rapists, and thieves terrorizing my neighborhood if you want my support?
idfk. It's infuriating, doubly so because even if they win by a good margin they still won't do anything good or fix anything. Like ffs they had the entire ballot drop out to triangulate against Bernie in the last election in order to get a senile Southern Democrat racist shitbag directly responsible for most of the worst domestic crises in to power.
Like seriously what the fuck is this? The pussy-hat crowd went out for abortion rights and the Democrats did nothing. ABSOLUFUCKINGLUTELY NOTHING. Half of them wouldn't shut up about building a big tent with Christian Fascist anti-abortion freaks for the last ten years. They just sat back and watched and let Roe die. Biden is on the record being anti-Abortion. Fucks sake. At least a dog will bite you if you beat it enough, a democrat is too loyal for that.
Love the fact that libs just ignore that Sleepy Joe is a self-described "devout catholic".
We all know why he doesn't give a shit about reproductive rights.
They ignore everything about Jim Crow Joe. Just all the horrific shit he's done and the millions of lives he's ruined, they just deploy this incredibly powerful see no evil field around one of the most destructive political actors of the 20th and 21st century in US politics and hold him up as a solution to the problems he literally enthusiastically caused. It's incredible.
Hot take - Liberal Democracy is a mind devouring horror from beyond the stars that destroys hope and turns it's victims in to mindless democrozombies. It's hilarious that the only people who believe in Democracy are the ones who constantly get fucked by it.
USAmericans are the most heavily indoctrinated people on the planet, and yet they can not stop screeching about mUh fReEdOm
The US doesn't even have liberal democracy, the person with the most votes can lose an election relatively easily, it has no parliament, the courts are inherently political in their appointments at the highest level. The US is a republic with democracy taking a backseat to capital at all times.
According to most European standards, the US also doesn't have actual parties.
Seriously, like actual political parties have mechanisms to discipline their members and hold them to a party line. That’s the whole point is to have them vote as a block.
They also have mechanisms to let the members decide on that party line, and on who runs the party. A body operating like the DNC would be flat-out illegal in a lot of other bourgeois states.
Democrats don't stand for anything except being "not GOP." And even then their ideology isn't that much different.
That's one thing that really frustrates me. Where is the off-ramp from voting for evil? Sure, the Democrats may be less obviously evil than the GOP, but so what? It's a death of a thousand cuts, we still end up in the same place - A burning planet, trans genocide, fascism. The Dems haven't done anything to stop it or slow it down. So what's the plan? When do we stop voting for evil? When do we switch from the lesser evil to the greater good?
And of course there isn't a plan. It's just dogma. There's just their ideological, quasi-religious faith in the American Civic Religion.
Last I chatted with a lib about it they said it was my fault for not voting for
in 2016. See Trump won and he installed the justices that ended abortion and it's my fault Trump won so actually the Dems did literally everything they could.Dems don't live in reality
Idfk, like what the fuck do people want with us? Like bruh just stop being a shitty little wimp and stuff the ballot box if you need more votes. You don't need us. The only thing holding you back from victory is your absurd insistance of following bs rules only in regards to your conduct with the fascists.
Yeah this is what I always try telling them. Why are Dems trying to shame socialists of all people into voting with them? There are barely any of us and we're already too stubborn to vote Democrat, so why are they bothering? Republicans don't give a shit about this vote shaming, they just make shit up or redraw districts or get illegal amounts of money from billionaire oil ghouls.
Democrats don't even care about their own rules, you're right. They'll gladly cannibalize themselves at any sign there's a leftward shift among party members. They'll spread racist rumors about their own senators. They'll call their most progressive politicians misogynists or antisemites before they'd ever dare offering the same criticisms against Republicans.
Man I hate liberal politics in this country so much, it's exhausting
I mean this comic is completely accurate and shows the problem. Why are you courting someone who is already voting for you. There is a huge subset of the country that will
literally no matter what. The Dems could spend time and effort taking actions that would secure new votes instead.This is exactly my argument for why voting blue is not harm reduction. Until they move left to align more closely with our values, voting for them signals that they're doing what you want and that they should keep doing it.
So if you are a leftist and care about electoralism it's actually important that you don't vote. Make them come to us.
When people are sufficiently apathetic, they will sometimes vote for the "lulz" candidate, just to "see what happens."
I personally know a number of people that claimed to not be conservatives/chuds/fascists but voted for
in 2016 "for the lulz."Fuck
but at least stay home or leave that part blank.
More like $27 judging by my recent emails. Democrats sure know how to account for inflation while fundraising, but public benefits? That shit gets a 2% increase per year if you're LUCKY.
The next comic has the donkey blaming the leftist for their loss
I like the strawman communist in these comics and he's my friend
Chasing the carrot at the end of the stick is a virtuous act. Stop complaining that the carrot is rotten. If you'd just run after it, we'd be able to replace it with a fresh one. Just be thankful you don't live in Cuba, there they give out carrots for free and the government doesn't even allow you to tie them to sticks!
Lmao, if I was a USAmerican I'd tell all my libs that I did not vote even if I did vote just to piss them off
I tell them I voted Green even though I vote PSL because they don't know what PSL is and Green pisses them off more lol.
Imagine the Dems doing anything that their voters want. The next panel should be the donkey cutting the old woman's social security while saying 'we see you, we hear you'
The dems do exactly as much for the socialists as they do for the progressive libs: nothing.
Exactly. Its very likely that pussy hat lady wants universal healthcare as something like 85-90% of the Dem base does yet the party does nothing on that front.
I mean seriously, I have not heard one peep about universal healthcare or even just a shitty public option from any democrat at any level in years. Even if it won’t pass now, dems refuse to even let it be discussed as a way to normalize it in people’s brains to lay a foundation for the future.
The GOP sure as hell doesn’t operate that way. They’ll bring up all sorts of crazy shit that will never pass but at least gets their base excited for things, jfc this isn’t that hard.
It's so strange. We have a party that cares so so much about being respectable, while at the same time isn't actually serious in any of its actions.
And we have the party that doesn't give a flying fuck about 'respectability', yet is fully serious and will pursue every possible avenue to achieve its goals.
My line isn't and has never been "I'll never vote for you." My line is "If you actually appeal to me, I will definitely vote for you." But then they never take me up on my offer ...
