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^ liberals when looking at azov soldiers with black sun and totemkopf tats
Honestly "Ukraine's army is just full of himbo gamers" is the best explanation libs have so far.
that's why the Ukrainians keep trying to blow up nuclear power plants, they just really want to LARP in a lore-accurate environment
People are like "here's my minis of my space marine legion the Child Slaughterers. They are the heroes" unironically. I like the chaos marines because an army of satanic supersoldiers ripped straight from a death metal album cover goes hard, but I avoid the fan base because they're genuinely the least media literate people ever. I don't think "satanic supersoldiers army" is a good model for society unlike every imperium fan online.
Saw a video the other day where some guy actually had to explain "no every faction is bad, that's the point, if you want a game where every faction can fight each other in-universe, they all have to be aggressive pieces of shit".
That said, my army are the only good guys in the setting: a bunch of communist rebels that, upon successfully seceding from the imperium, immediately fell into a 12-way civil war over which ideologies are revisionist (the answers may surprise you!)
My army is a Sisters of Battle convent that intercepted some scrambled transmissions from Ancient Earth and now worship Lenin, Stalin etc as patron saints. Their holy book is the Communist Manifesto, but they only have fragments of it and don't really understand what they're supposed to be doing - but they're extremely zealous about it, declaring all capitalists and landlords "witches" and recruiting hundreds of People's Inquisitors to stake their hearts and burn their bodies to prevent them from rising again as vampires.
Loved that game the one time I played it, I was a lib back then so I wonder how it would hold up now. IIRC the communists all secretly read the collected works of revolutionary John Lennon.
Because The Computer was damaged during the nuclear war, its records are incomplete. Instead of Karl Marx, commies read the works of the Marx Brothers. Instead of Lenin, they read Lennon. It's a funny and clever game (from the 80s!) that includes communists as playable PCs. Even encourages them! You can organize the infrareds (proletariat) to rise up and overthrow The Computer.
You could work in some mechanicum who found part of The Fragment on Machines
Actually my force of a socialism-with-space-insect-characteristics red army are the only true leftists, some of them even have two left arms! Now please face the biomass dissolving pool, revisionist
Smh I knew the Mutant Rights Party (Cult of the Four-Armed Emperor) was up to something.
Cult of the Four-Armed Emperor
That better be three left arms (not four, that'd be ultra)
Funny enough these bugs aren't actually red, and when they find any tasty genes that could turn them red, they get too excited and obliterate them beyond the possibility of assimilation
People unironically assert that the writing is only good if you deliberately make every faction have some obviously-heinous shit in its core doctrine. "Moral complexity is when you need to choose between Republicans, Democrats, and Identity Evropa"
The Tau are cool. It is funny they use old cold war anti commi propaganda for them.
The Tau are interesting. Originally, they were much more unambiguously "good" (or at least naive), being the only faction to actually work with other species. Hell, the Tau were multiple subspecies, with the air caste actually having wings. Contrary to their reputation as communists nowadays, the inspiration behind them was NATO troops, specifically things like the multi-species coalition, caring about their troops at all, focusing on light mechanized infantry, and using lots of euphemisms for terms for military action/organization (as we see in the "police action" in korea, for instance). The imperium meets with them and don't understand how their society functions without an extremely oppressive state to keep people in line and assume it must be ethereal pheromones, but this take is quite obviously meant to be imperial propaganda.
This is then slowly retconned, and now you have canon ethereal mind control. The four subspecies? Oh, they're now an oppressive caste system. Imperium players love the Farsight Enclaves because they're free of the influence of the evil
CCPEthereals, completely ignoring that Farsight is possessed by a demon. The multi-species coalition part of the model line has been completely ignored in favor of moar battlesuits; kroot never got models after the range launch (I guess there's the kill team now at least), vespid were a one-time thing, and we'll never get models of the psychic polar bears. How much of this was individual GW author brainworms and how much was conscious change after the initial rage at Tau's release, who knows. And of course, you can't actually have them progress in a meaningful way despite centuries having passed, because the setting can't change (even when it does).40K will always be held back by the fact that its defining characteristic is grimdark, and everything is ultimately subordinated to that in the long run. The Tau can never be both good and successful in the long term, since that wouldn't be grimdark enough.
It's at its best either in alternate timeline counterfactuals where the grimdark narrativium can be removed, or when it embraces the fact that it is a ridiculous piece of camp escapism that comes from the same sci-fi milieu as Red Dwarf.
People are like "here's my minis of my space marine legion the Child Slaughterers. They are the heroes" unironically.
The Lamentors are reasonably okay dudes (in the context of the setting), but the whole joke with them is that they get horrifically owned anywhere they go, no matter what they do, because the universe hates them.
Nah the most intelligent is the replier saying “imperium aesthetics aren’t fascist-inspired, they’re just the Roman Empire”
“imperium aesthetics aren’t fascist-inspired, they’re just the Roman Empire”
Same
mindset behind the people who think Caesar's Legion isn't fascist in Fallout: New Vegas lol
Ngl I find it weird when people get tattoos of fictional bad enemies that are meant to be emulations or real world imperialists (like all the Star Wars Imperial Star tattoo folks).
Also, Harry Potter people who ID as the house that's exclusively racist fascist in the books.
Star Wars did this deliberately by marketing their merchandise as some kind of active choice you're making by buying the good guy toys or the bad guys. It's all merchandising and aesthetics at the corporate level that filters down to the average person as "space fascism is actually very cool"
I gotta be honest. Im a sucker for bad guys but I wouldnt go with bad guys who are facists.
This made me think about it and I think I agree. Like I don't do that kind of brand shit anyway, but I get why someone would have something with a logo of like Team Rocket (or Aqua/Magma, etc) or the Akatsuki or some other group, but the fucking Empire or Slitherin or Death Eaters? No way in hell. If you like Vader, just get something with his helmet and if you like Snape just watch other movies with Alan Rickman like Dogma because he really carried the character.
Like, there's kooky or maniacal ambitions, then there's just being depraved sickos, and if someone identifies with depraved sickos they should maybe look for counseling instead of merchandising.
Edit:
spoiler for chainsaw man manga
Makima is real evil, but she wasn't like a sadist or anything, just ruthless, and there did turn out to be arguably an even kookier motivation underlying her coldblooded conspiracy than the literal children's cartoon villains I mentioned above.
yes it will, that's the point of the imperium is that they are the bad guys, jesus people are dense
Remember the guy during the Jan 6 "insurrection" who had the mark of the outsider tattooed on is hand so a bunch of news sites started pretending it was a hammer and sickle and thus evidence that it was a secret communist plot.
Fuck, I’d considered getting the mark at one point, goddamn it chuds
There are loads of symbols you could use from 40k which are not directly inspired by fascism just get some eldar runes or necron glyphs.
B-b-bu-but I like my fascismo Imperials, totes not a Nazi sympathizer though bro!
rules for avoiding being thought of as a baddie
- do not get a totenkopf tattoo
People keep confusing my tattoo of the big logo for The Torment Engine from my favorite book Don't Build The Torment Engine as some kind of nasty antisocial symbol and judging me for it.
People are asking a lot of questions about my "not a serial killer" tattoo that are already answered by my cool tattoo
Hey now the game is pretty great, it stands alongside the movie imo
Time to repost this article I found from Hexbear dot net about WH40k's "satire": Satire Without Purpose Will Wander In Dark Places
honestly people get tattoos of the Empire from Star Wars which is just as nazi-coded.
