"There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses." -Ezekiel 23:20
all politics is sexual pathology. the whole chapter is an incel rant about early 6th century bce geopolitics.
So noted.
"Then two hexbears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the libs."
2 Nerds 4:20
Now listen, you rich people, weep and wail because of the misery that is coming on you. Your wealth has rotted, and moths have eaten your clothes. Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the last days. Look! The wages you failed to pay the workers who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves in the day of slaughter. You have condemned and murdered the innocent one, who was not opposing you.
Maybe, but that's what the whole book is about. Very much recommend it.
edit: I recently saw a tweet or something that was like, "The state tells us we have to read The Grapes of Wraith at 13 and then gets mad when we understand it at 26."
Damn that goes hard. James 5 for those wondering, had to look it up.
Eh. I kind of have more disdain for "christians" who aren't doing shit like that tbh. You really believe that billions of people are going to face brutal torture for all eternity and you haven't devoted your entire life to converting people?
the more effective way of converting people would also be to actually practice what they preach re: charity, earthly posessions, treatment of the poor, outcasts, sinners, etc.
i mean if christans built like a dual-power shadow communist system i might consider reevaluating my beliefs
Ugh, I used to have this mindset as a kid and my parents didn't bother asking me to tone it down because "Eh that's technically what they teach at our missionary based church."
My dork ass didn't convert a single child, thank fuck.
That’s because the god of capital is more scary than the god of abraham. One of them will just watch you suffer while the other actively inflicts suffering. So you gotta please it first
How about the drive-by proselytisers that are calling you to repent and turn to Jesus in the comments of a video about a cute animal or Oblivion NPC dialogue
The religion with the most annoying followers
And the king said unto her, What aileth thee? And she answered, This woman said unto me, Give thy son, that we may eat him to day, and we will eat my son to morrow. So we boiled my son, and did eat him: and I said unto her on the next day, Give thy son, that we may eat him: and she hath hid her son...." (II Kings 6:28-29)
I think this proves my point
They're up there with "astrology people who insist on know everyone's sign and don't desist when you tell them you don't believe in astrology."
Astrology people used to bug the shit out of me, but now I find it a pleasant way to learn about someone. It's kind of like a gateway to just talk about your personalities for a bit.
I don't believe any of it, but I'll share my sign and (usually) she will make some calls about my likes and dislikes and I'll say what's true or not. Ask her sign and questions about her. See if we'll get along or not.
Idk it's a nice way to just chat, I guess. Prefer it to other small talk. Could make a friend from it, too.
Eh, I'll give my sign, but then people keep asking more intrusive questions like the exact hour I was born so they can tell me my rising and setting sign or whatever. It just kind of seems obnoxious to do when you know the person you're talking to doesn't believe in this.
To me it's the same as someone who keeps brining religion into a conversation when the know the person they're talking to is a non-believer. You know I don't believe in this, you could respect that fact and leave the topic be.
yeah but you could also just have a regular conversation and get to know someone that way instead, without the magical thinking predestination nonsense
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Nah, the hate for astrology is partially made up of internalized misogyny. We have to overcome it. It is just as fake as the economy. We just are taught to resent it because it is girl coded. Girls can have a little bronze age mysticism as a treat.
Nah it's still woo woo crap that's often a gateway to other more unhinged pseudo-mysticism shit like the crystal healing. Plus modern astrology has got more to do with early 19th century occultism than it does any ancient tradition from Babylon. It was originally crap for bored rich white dudes who wanted to pretend to be special wizards.
Yes, but now it is for the ✨️ girls ✨️
Which would probably go farther in terms of pissing of the old dead wizards than us just ignoring it.
If girls wanna have a little mysticism as a treat couldn't they just do goofy witchcraft shit? Not the shit dead eugenics wizards came up with that argued everyone's personality is determined by their birthday?
If nothing else it seems kind of depressing to argue that everyone's fate is sealed by when their parents boned, there's some dark implications to that.
This is part of the goofy witchcraft stuff. The idea that we are connected to the universe and our lives are special, and the rules can be figured out to make them better. Those are all reasonable comforting things to want. It is less determinative than class consciousness. Less useful as well but it's fine you know.
I just find it really disrespectful to make a bunch of assumptions about someone's personality based on when they're born. Okay I'm a fucking Cancer, maybe the actual particulars of my life have caused me to be way different than my star chart says I should be? Maybe you should get to know me first before wiping out calipers to measure my fucking skull. If you like magical shit why not just play a ton of D&D or write a fantasy novel rather then try in inject this shit into your real life?
Call me a stick in the mud but I just find it very insulting to my individuality and agency that so many people insist that my personality was formed by a fucking sky crab. Yeah sure have your fun with it but if I say I'm not into it, accept that, and don't try and blame my distaste for it on the fact it's slightly more popular with women than men (there are astrology dudes fyi and if anything they're more obnoxious).
No, you see there are only 12 types of people and it's totally good and okay and just fun to reduce things to that
Also one of those times of people is inherently impulse, has an "everyone for themselves" mentality and selfish tendencies which are totally neutral harmless assumptions to make about someone based on their birthday.
The biggest parts of our personality are formed by factors outside our control. It is simply more fun to live a fantasy.
There have been studies that show when you are born can have effects on your personality. More how it relates to the school calender and how old you are when you start classes.
It isn't disrespectful. You are welcome to not like it. It is ultimately harmless however.
It isn't disrespectful.
It feels disrespectful to me, especially when people are really pushy about it, and they often are.
I don't respond this way in public, I just roll my eyes and tell people my sign and let them explain my own personality to me and sit in silent frustration. But this is an anonymous Internet forum so I wanted to vent about it.
It is ultimately harmless however.
People say this but I've encountered numerous people irl who make fairly important life decisions based on zodiac signs, like what candidate to vote for and who to date. And I've heard stories about countries where they take astrology way more seriously, like India, where people can get denied jobs or housing based on birth sign. Makes me wonder if there are astrology nerd landlords in the west quietly doing the same shit.
It certainly can evolve into something harmful. With institutions eroding in the world more people seem to be falling into mystical conspiracies, like anti-vax and alternative medicine. That's why I think there should be some pushback to this stuff, it's fun and games until a bunch of hippy moms cause an infant measles outbreak.
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Makes me wonder if there are astrology nerd landlords in the west quietly doing the same shit.
Okay not hosing but apparently there are rumors Jennifer Lopez fired backup dancers based on zodiac signs so no this is not always harmless.
That's fair. I guess I am inclined to see this as a symptom of magical thinking instead of a cause. If they are willing to make big life choices with astrology they are not going to use the scientific method you know. If it wasn't astrology it would be any other random thing. Astrology is not a unique cognitohazard I don't think.
We should try and dissuade people from that type of thinking in general, not just astrology specifically. But this constant dismissal of the bad effects of astrology doesn't help with that.
Yes, we should get people onto materialism. However, being sassy about stuff people like is not the dialectic way to do it. My point here is two fold. I used to hate astrology until I did some self crit and realized it was not coming from a real reasoned productive place and I feel I am happier now that I have understood why I felt the way and did and why people feel the way they do. Second, it is a fun game to play with girls so that is cute and fun. Just tell one that whatever thing they said is " such a Capricorn thing" enjoy the chaos
enjoy the chaos
NO I WANT ORDER!
being sassy about stuff people like is not the dialectic way to do it.
Like I said I don't get into fights about this shit in public I was venting online, that just evolved into me making a more serious argument against astrology apologia.
I'll close with this: I feel like a lot of these defenses of astrology based around its associations with the feminine kinda feed into sexist stereotypes. Like the whole idea that women are chaotic and emotional and fey while men are ordered and logical, that's some Jordan Peterson shit. Maybe the reason so many women are into astrology is the the same reason less women are in STEM? The patriarchy directs them in those directions.
I get that. I just don't agree. Astrology is a very organized system of knowledge
Most of the knowledge any random person on the street will have is wrong. In that it is a systematic attempt to understand the world outside liberal terms I am less opposed to it than other similar ideas. Especially as there is no direct path from astrology to antivaxx. It is all personal preference stuff. It is one of the least offensive manifestations of modern magical thinking.
It isn't disrespectful.
Yes it fucking is disrespectful to make wild assumptions / judgments about my personality based on when my birthday is. It's disrespectful even if you don't tell me about it and you're only judging me for my birthday in private. Knock that shit off.
Let there be no compulsion in religion, for the truth stands out clearly from falsehood. So whoever renounces false gods and believes in Allah has certainly grasped the firmest, unfailing hand-hold. And Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing.
~ Quran, 2:256
It surprises me that while Tim Tebow had John 3:16 written on his eye black strips, no linebacker in the league posted something like this on his strips. Would have thrown him off his game better than any defensive scheming, at least while he was in college. He was terrible in the NFL
If I was cashed up when my prefrontal cortex was still a work in progress, there's a good chance that I would have gotten a tattoo saying "Leviticus 19:28". I still think it's a funny idea because it's one of those deep-trolling things that really tickles my sense of humour.
Part of this is because I'm autistic and I just mask all the damn time so I can play things incredibly straight and I can do a convincing job of it, so I'd go for the longest con Andy Kaufman-style joke where I'd be quietly adamant about my Christian beliefs to non-Christians and to Christians I'd wax lyrical about how this was the verse that converted me because it made me realise that we must turn away from pagan practices and recognise that this body we have been given is itself a sacrament and that we must treasure it as we would anything that God has had touched.
I would leave everyone baffled and I'd be dying of laughter internally the whole time.
my brother literally has "leviticus 19:28" tatted on his asscheek
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yeah he really fucking hates religion lol. too many sunday mornings ruined by having to go to mass i guess
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I grew up in a borderline cult, so i like to drop funny bible verses just to take the lord's name in vain
I doubt the people you are talking about are doing the same, but i suggest learning a couple funny verses to throw back at them
The one with a bald man and rude kids is a good place to start
Ezekiel 4:15 NIV: He replied to me, “Look, I will let you use cow dung instead of human excrement, and you can make your bread over that.”
https://www.foodforlife.com/product/breads/ezekiel-49-sprouted-whole-grain-bread
in america there's a brand of bread called ezekiel 4:9 which is the verse with the ingredients list. the company has a canned response that they use clean and sanitized stainless steel ovens and natural gas to bake their bread, not cow dung or human excrement, if you happen to have read any of the verses after 4:9 and grew concerned.
Surely there are dozens of other bible verses that referenced bread that also didn’t mention feces
for normal wheat bread, yes, but this bread is made from a mixture of wheat, barley, millet, spelt, lentils, and beans (although obviously this was long before the columbian exchange so it means fava or chickpeas, not black, red, pinto, etc.), basically whatever could be scrounged together during a siege.
ezekiel is being commanded to eat this bread as penance for and in solidarity with the people of jerusalem who are besieged by the babylonians. that's why he's supposed to cook it over feces, because the people in jerusalem don't have access to cooking fuels, either.
but i guess whoever founded the company just thought it sounded tasty and decided to ignore everything else.
'And leaving them, he went out of the city to Bethany and lodged there' ?
i am once again begging chr*stians to keep their bullshit to themselves
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Nobody appreciates me randomly dropping quotes from the Song of Solomon anymore... smdh.
that's zeke 23. song of solomon is about how his bride's hair resembles a flock of goats flowing down mount gilead and her breasts are like young twin gazelles bouncing through the fields.
Recently I've stumbled upon a YT channel called "Good fight ministries" or something of that sort and it was all about how transgenders and celebrities are satan so pretty average stuff, using bible verses way out of context to twist them to be a condemnation of Hollywood directors (using clips of them talking about being inspired as proof of possession) and singers I've never heard of (Jesus famously said grammies are evil i guess), but this then led me down a rabbit hole of crazy "Christian spiritual warfare" videos where schizos and grifters bang on about defending yourself against demons that posses you at night, with one lady claiming some sort of ghoul was "strumming" her spine at night. Unironically all these people need Jesus.
with one lady claiming some sort of ghoul was "strumming" her spine at night.
That's more common than most people realize, need to see a bone wizard.
The most concerning thing is that these spiritual warfare videos often have tens of thousands of views, maybe hundreds or millions if it’s general enough and doesn’t dwell into the illuminati trangender cabal lol
this is exactly what I needed to hear this morning
