This knob is aaalll up in the replies corn cobbing, quite entertaining

https://hexbear.net/comment/3679644

Shoutout to @afellowkid@lemmygrad.ml for their excellent effortpost response. Always good to remember in situations like this, going to the effort to actually refute and answer and educate is important not to fix the dweeb they are responding to, but so that anyone else who comes to see the interaction can see the stark difference between bullshit and the slightest research

rat-salute

  • Lerios [hy/hym]
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    11 months ago

    stop being a bad person biden-point

    god these people genuinely think they're the protaganist of a YA novel don't they. fucking christ

    • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      "Stop being a bad person" I say as I defend the U.S. voting against making food a human right, on the grounds of cynicism

    • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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      11 months ago

      these people genuinely think they're the protaganist of a YA novel

      You can't do this to me! I started this company! You know how much I sacrificed??

  • WhatWouldKarlDo@lemmygrad.ml
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    11 months ago

    I think what bothered me the most about him (even more than the genocide apologia), was the absolutely unshakeable smug American exceptionalism. He was certain that the world couldn't do anything without the US, and we should all just be grateful for what we have.

    • AOCapitulator [they/them]
      hexagon
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      11 months ago

      Okay, look. The CIA did a lot of bad things to south america. But that was in the 60s, a lifetime ago! And they probably thought they were doing good stuff, they were hard men living in hard times! Things are different now, and the US Government deserves our uncritical rabid devotion!

      edit: this is not parody, I am paraphrasing stuff this person was actually saying

      • WhatWouldKarlDo@lemmygrad.ml
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        11 months ago

        this is not parody, I am paraphrasing stuff this person was actually saying

        Oh, I'm well aware. I wanted to put my pointiest stiletto right through his tongue. He's probably also one of the charming people who insist that colonisation made life better for the natives.

        • AOCapitulator [they/them]
          hexagon
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          11 months ago

          You did well o7

          The comment was more for our friends who never ever ever click on links and only know about context if people post it in the comments

      • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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        11 months ago

        The CIA did some horrible stuff, but come on, that was the 60s 70s 80s 90s 00s 10s! That was the iPhone 2 era!

    • Teekeeus [comrade/them]
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      11 months ago

      TIL the ghost of Madeleine Albright has possessed someone and is now posting from beyond the grave

    • keepcarrot [she/her]
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      11 months ago

      It's true, before the founding of the US everyone starved to death, lying about in fields wondering what the hell these fat turnips were.

  • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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    11 months ago

    Typical liberal response.

    ”Hey, do you want to make the world a better place?”

    maybe-later-kiddo ”Too expensive! WhO's GoNnA PaY fOr It?”

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      What if society improves somewhat and the planet is more survivable and it was all for nothing? maybe-later-honey

  • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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    11 months ago
    1. Yes. The US is purposely starving the world

    At least he admits it.

  • replaceable [he/him]M
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    11 months ago

    This is the first time i have seen anyone be accused of being a norwegian shill

    • WhatWouldKarlDo@lemmygrad.ml
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      11 months ago

      I was kind of surprised by that as well. I was being charitable, as China is the biggest in terms of dollar amounts, but they only contribute $20 per capita or so. Norway is almost $1000 and I thought that should be recognised. I was shocked when he came back with wanting to compare totals. I of course sent him the same link again with China written instead.

      The guy was absolutely unreachable, but I just tried to present him with actual facts as simply as possible, as they are easy for observers to verify. I'm grateful to the others who explained the geopolitical realities for the people who wanted more though.

      • replaceable [he/him]M
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        11 months ago

        According to this post plurality of our users are from Norway, coincidence? I dont think so

  • Antiwork [none/use name]
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    11 months ago

    Yeah “Humans Rights” is a ridiculous framing of any issue

    America would have to pay for more food and we already give the world enough aid

    I hope they personally starve to death.

  • duderium [he/him]
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    11 months ago

    Isn’t “virtue signaling” a term fascists use? I think this might be a fascist, not a liberal, although both suck.

    • loathesome dongeater@lemmygrad.ml
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      11 months ago

      Virtue signalling can be a valid non-reactionary critique at times (for examplr the :liberalism: emoji). But yeah conservatives tend to use it more often. Since they are morally bankrupt sadists even surface-level positive changes piss them off.

      • AOCapitulator [they/them]
        hexagon
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        11 months ago

        This may be the ultimate example of Virtue Signaling™ Ive ever seen. Insead of doing their jobs as legislators and creating legislation to fight injustice, without even pretending to try, they don parody level racist "african culture" scarfs, and then to 'honor' George Floyd they reenact the way in which he was murdered for a fucking photo op.

        added bonus, half of them then struggle badly to get back to their feet after kneeling, a great dog and pony gerontocracy show

  • stigsbandit34z [they/them]
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    11 months ago

    A comrade already pointed this out in another post, but it seems like most liberals are unable to grasp the fact that the US isn’t a villain in a back room twirling its mustache while trying to inflict as much harm as possible on the world for the sake of causing harm. It’s a profit-driven death cult that will write off each atrocity and sociopathic intention as a business expense.

  • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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    11 months ago
    1. America and it's cronies

    2. China

    3. America and it's cronies

    idk what everyone's talking about, this debate stuff is easy??

  • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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    11 months ago

    The deepest criticism you could levy at this mentality is that it's the U.S. that is by far most responsible for making a mockery of international law.

  • mazdak
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    10 months ago

    deleted by creator

    • NoGodsNoMasters [they/them, she/her]
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      11 months ago

      It is performative and it is virtue signalling tbh, but if that's the case, voting against it is pretty much just vice signalling

    • StalinIsMaiWaifu@lemmygrad.ml
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      11 months ago

      short: yes but actually no

      Long: this one (2002 resolution) was performative and entirely reiterates other resolutions and decisions from other bodies. Other resolutions though are enforced through aid organizations (aid only goes to those who "play nice") and sanctions. Ofc any sanction proposed against the security council can be assumed to be vetoed, so in a microcosm the rich/powerful states play by different rules than the rest.

  • rjs001@lemmygrad.ml
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    11 months ago

    When will those pesky people in the global south learn to stop being so demanding for our food. I just want to pump my fossil fuels into the air in peace without being harassed by these people who can’t pull themselves by their bootstraps/s