• SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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    3 months ago

    Stoking anti-muslim shit for decades and then turning around and blaming Corbyn for "antisemtism" because Wizard Book lady said so. FUCK TERF island.

    • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]
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      3 months ago

      I was just explaining this to my oldest kid yesterday. Stalin had too much humanity to get the job done. He wasn't capable of the cruelty the bourgeoisie deserved.

  • CloutAtlas [he/him]
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    3 months ago

    Imagine if JKKK Rowling chose today to walk outside in blackface (which you know she just wears around the house on Sundays for no particular reason), gets mistaken for a real POC by the rocks for brains rioters and just gets decked.

  • Justice@lemmygrad.ml
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    3 months ago

    I see a lot of the word riot

    And a lack of the word pogrom

    Purposeful I assume for the media's part.

  • brainw0rms [they/them]
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    3 months ago

    You really have to hand it to the UK government for having probably the worst possible messaging tactics on this.

    Yes, the guy was not himself an immigrant. That was indeed misinformation. But to keep framing it like, "Ackshually finger-wag he was a true blooded Brit born to Rwandan immigrant parents nerd Checkmate misinformation bigots!!!" isn't the correct messaging strategy to use here.

    The government/media seem to be entirely incapable of following that statement through to its conclusion in the minds of the anti-immigrant right. They will just take that to mean: "Well then obviously these immigrants are all incapable of assimilation into UK society, and they have to go regardless what generation migrant they are! frothingfash"

    It would have been much better to actually address the material conditions that led to this kid being radicalized / falling through the cracks of the mental healthcare system / etc. It sounds like they have not ascertained the motive for the killings, so I'm making guesses, but you can take my meaning.

    • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]
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      3 months ago

      It would have been much better to actually address the material conditions that led to this kid being radicalized

      lenin-sure I'm sure they'll get right on that.

    • catonkatonk [none/use name]
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      3 months ago

      But also, what if he had been a Muslim immigrant? That obviously wouldn't justify anything that had happened. And so the race, religion and nationality of the attacker are entirely irrelevant.

      I wonder why the government is having a difficult time signalling to its population that collective punishment is unacceptable...

      • brainw0rms [they/them]
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        3 months ago

        Yeah, exactly. They're letting racist chuds control the entire discourse/narrative, so they are stuck playing defense. Their only rhetorical tools are deflecting and deboonking. It's a failing strategy. It's incredible libs have not learned this by now.

        • barrbaric [he/him]
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          3 months ago

          This is assuming that they meaningfully oppose the chuds and aren't just pretending.

    • weeen [any, any]
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      3 months ago

      Yeah, they outnumbered the 'pro-british' 'protestors', as the media calls them, in many places

      Show
      Show
      but the nazis (a guy just got arrested with a swaztika tat) have done insane damage, they burned down a library in Liverpool

      https://x.com/C_Hendrick/status/1820009252477362450

        • catonkatonk [none/use name]
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          3 months ago

          The British state-run media organisation has been egregiously bad. Look at this shit. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cervv8rz8mzo

          An anti-immigration protest began peacefully outside Bolton Town Hall earlier, but within half an hour, about 300 people, who mostly had their faces covered with black face masks or balaclavas, charged towards the building. They began shouting "Allahu Akbar" - a phrase meaning God is greatest - as they arrived at one side of the town hall, where a separate group had gathered waving England flags.

          Meanwhile, here is footage of that event https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3QDnJeoYJM&t

          • weeen [any, any]
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            3 months ago

            Lmao yeah, I've seen muslims/asians be called 'mobs' for organising to protect themselves

            And next we'll have 500 tweets from libs, OMG my asian neighbour just brought us food aww they're not all bad!! as if no modern kristallnacht had happened

          • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]
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            3 months ago

            Lmao I bet the media will do more outrage over the God is Greatest chants over people being racially targeted even if they're not even from muslim majority countries.

            • catonkatonk [none/use name]
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              3 months ago

              On reddit-logo , I saw people clutching their pearls at the chant and explaining that it is a terrorist rallying cry, and that even Wikipedia mentions the connection.

        • Nationalgoatism [any]
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          3 months ago

          Shout out the guys showing up to chase fascist pogromists out of town, arriving dressed like this

          • Des [she/her, they/them]
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            3 months ago

            crust punks. metallic hardcore show guys. hardcore punk guys. left-unity-2 antifa's finest

      • Des [she/her, they/them]
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        3 months ago

        my god the big antifa guy in the center left is the most hardcore show guy that's ever hardcored.

        the shirt, the shoes, the shorts, the hat. can't make out the band name

        skinny nazi doesn't know he's about to get fucking wrecked

        • Justice@lemmygrad.ml
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          3 months ago

          That's absolutely a guy who would do a spinning whirly arm windmill thing directly into your face, knocking you over, then immediately help you back up and apologize. Met many such people. I would generally regard them as people not to be fucked with especially when they're large lads like that one. Look at his legs. My god. What a unit.

    • weeen [any, any]
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      3 months ago

      Show
      here they've blocked exits of a hotel holding asylum seekers before setting it on fire

      edit: really depressing video https://x.com/TheBluSocialist/status/1820131223798464767

        • weeen [any, any]
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          3 months ago

          https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/uk-riots-live-hotel-rotherham-33386398 No deaths have been reported from the riots yet but I have no idea if it'll stay that way, there's literally been stabbings and acid attacks

          TWO buildings housing asylum seekers have been torched so far, if they don't get attempted murder for this then the country is genuinely fucked

          And this is the 'better' government that liberals said we had to vote for in the UK waltuh seeing US libs do it again is making me feel insane, yasss vote in Klu Kop Kamala!!

        • VILenin [he/him]
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          3 months ago

          It was only a matter of time before the terrorist violence exported by the U$A and UKKK was returned to sender

  • Des [she/her, they/them]
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    3 months ago

    part of me thinks this is one of those situations where an armed population would at least dissuade this kind of rampant impunity

    try to pull a person out of a car. get a bullet to the dome.

    at least the threat this may happen might make the rioters second guess

    and since the police seem to be opting out and there's no national guard to speak of and we know how adverse to threats the western right is

    like even a loosely cobbled together armed popular front militia would probalbly be enough to keep these shits from burning down buildings full of asylum seekers

    yes i know the it's likely the full force of the state would be brought down on the people defending their city and populace but fuck sometimes i think i'd rather go out resisting with everything you got

    sorry this shit makes me so mad i don't know what the solution is besides general class war

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      3 months ago

      Police aren't hitting the riots but they've already started raiding homes of participants. Most of these shits are going to end up locked up.

      Issue is though that the prisons are full so I don't know how hard the courts will go.

    • SoyViking [he/him]
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      3 months ago

      They have an armed population in the US. The people most likely to be armed over there are the chuds. Guns has been used there in several far-right terrorist attacks and are routinely used to intimidate those targeted by the fascist.

      I am not convinced that allowing random people to buy firearms reduces the likelihood of fascist terror. Where fascist thugs has successfully been chased out of towns and neighbours it has been as a result of organising rather than hardware, both broad big tent antifascist organising of the community and the formation of more dedicated antifascist community self-defense groups.

      • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]
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        3 months ago

        Yep, especially taking Britain as an example - before the war with Nazi Germany, the BUF was driven out by the anti-fascist communities organizing around disrupting their marches.

        And the same as today, the fascists of back then always went " :smuglord: these people are taking away our rights to speech" everytime the community fought against them.

      • Dolores [love/loves]
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        3 months ago

        the UK has armed and extremely kitted out police, they just reserve disproportionate responses for people with legitimate grievances lol. US pigs also roll over for rightwing thugs

      • Greenleaf [he/him]
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        3 months ago

        UK has the Territorial Army, which I’m told is like the National Guard or Army Reserve in the US.