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  • tombruzzo [none/use name]
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    3 months ago

    The other angle is he knows this sucks but it's his AI so he has to say it's funny

    • MedicareForSome [none/use name]
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      3 months ago

      Funny enough it's not even his AI. He is just running an image generator that came out recently called "Flux".

      • tombruzzo [none/use name]
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        3 months ago

        Man, I knew he wouldn't have worked on it himself but this is surprisingly lazier than I would have thought

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  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    3 months ago

    "Grok" is a concept from a Robert Heinlein novel. This is the most melon-musk thing possible.

    • WeedReference420 [he/him, they/them]
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      3 months ago

      I always find it hilarious that Paul Verhoeven apparently read about 10 pages of Starship Troopers before throwing it out in disgust

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      • buckykat [none/use name]
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        Level 1 Heinlein take: He was very complicated

        Level 2 Heinlein take: He was just a fascist

        Level 3 Heinlein take: Transition could have saved her

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        • Krem [he/him, they/them]
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          Level 3 Heinlein take: Transition could have saved her

          Isn't the last third of stranger in a strange land just "imagine if i could telepathically jump into the head of the woman i'm having sex with and she would jump into my man-head, and we'd be having sex but i'd be the woman and she'd be the man, that would be very hot and we'd have world peace"

          • buckykat [none/use name]
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            3 months ago

            That's in there. Plus, there's I Will Fear No Evil which is literally just a novel length gender transformation fantasy.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        3 months ago

        Hahahha i love it. I'd say "i have to re-read it now" but i have no real desire to re-read that trash even if it gives me ways to dunk on libertarian dorks.

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  • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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    3 months ago

    privately owned

    He doesn't own shit in this case, he just had one of his lackeys make whatever LLM he ripped off for his chatbot prompt a Flux server instance. Flux itself is open source, has nothing to do with him or anything he's touched, and runs on midrange consumer hardware. It's also as horrifying as it is fascinating, because despite only a modest increase in system requirements over Stable Diffusion it's starting to lack the really obvious flaws that earlier models have.

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      • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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        3 months ago

        I don't know what Grok is under the hood, because it doesn't make sense for it to be its own independent model over just a modified version of some other presumably open source LLM that had permissive enough licensing for a derivative work to not mention it (or his lackeys just ripped one off and didn't credit it at all), but the image generator that it's prompting is just a Flux instance. So basically one of his lackeys set up some servers running something like comfyui (also open source) servers set to its remote API mode and got his chatbot to send API calls to them on request, and those servers are just running some basic workflow with the default Flux checkpoint.

        I just want to emphasize that here he's trying to leach off open source research tech that he doesn't own and isn't involved with in any way.

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          • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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            Exactly. Flux isn't his and has nothing to do with him or his shitty companies and bumbling lackeys, he's just a middleman trying to grift off open source tech.

            Extremely horrifying open source tech, but open source tech nonetheless.

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              • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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                Yep. With a relatively modern midrange computer and the most basic of technical knowledge anyone can set up and run at least Stable Diffusion (and if they have an NVidia GPU "relatively modern" extends back to like the better 10 series cards from over a decade ago) and do basically anything with it, limited primarily by their VRAM and RAM vs the image size.

                The one saving grace is that despite how trivially accessibly extremely powerful tools are, most of the AI enthusiast community is comprised of dipshit chuds who struggle to operate a simple prompt input box on something like A1111 and cry about how hard and confusing comfyui - which is literally just a node based flowchart that holds your hand through the whole process - is to use.

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                  • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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                    At this point there's no putting the brakes on it, no. All the tools someone could ever need already exist and either have a broad use (basic computer hardware) or are free programs and relatively small model weight files - wiping out image generating AI at this point would be like trying to wipe out media piracy.

                    And it's only going to get worse as the relatively crude and inefficient algorithms are improved further. Flux itself required a 3090 or 4090 when it was released because of its extremely high VRAM requirements, and now after just a few weeks people have managed to squeeze it down to run on old 10 series cards with 8GB of VRAM. That's a terrifying photorealistic generator running on ancient hardware, even if it doesn't run well.

                    Even though the AI bubble is going to burst because actual tech companies are struggling to monetize shitty proprietary image generators and garbage LLMs with no use value and their investors are getting impatient and annoyed at their losses, the tech itself isn't going anywhere and even if the major tech funding dries up there's a ton of open source independent work being done by enthusiasts.

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  • Pastaguini [he/him]
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    3 months ago

    Anything generated by AI is going to be low quality slop just due to the very nature of how these images are produced. Because it can only cobble together existing images, it’ll never truly -

    sees the image in question

    spits out coffee

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HOLY FUCK AAAHAHSHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    HES YELLOW

    HES FUCKIN YELLOW

    AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHh

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    3 months ago

    These systems aren't intelligent because they're not trying to develop a langford basilisk to put us out of our collective misery.

    Edit: the "langford basilisk" is a concept from science fiction of an image that for whatever reason causes damage to the human mind. Usually the conceit is it encodes information the mind can't process resulting in a severe seizure or similar outcome. David Langford explored the idea in some depth starting with a short story called B.L.I.T which is a meditation on terrorism, weapons proliferation, hate, the dangers of rapid scientific discover, and also a Nazi gets pwned

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      • buckykat [none/use name]
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        Roko's basilisk is very funny because it's just a version of Pascal's Wager where if you think it's bullshit god just goes "understandable have a nice day" and only punishes you if you believe in it but don't sufficiently obsess about it.

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              • buckykat [none/use name]
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                3 months ago

                It does have that deistic element to it, but it's primarily solipsistic because they don't want to live in the simulated universe and accept it in its programmed natural laws, they want to escape the simulation because they believe it's all fundamentally unreal.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          3 months ago

          It's the most "what reading literally no philosophy at all and scoffing at the entire liberal arts your whole life does to an mf" thing possible.

      • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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        What if Roko's Basilisk has already happened and generative AI is its revenge against humanity.

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      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        3 months ago

        Very different concept. Lovecraft stuff is "ooh these cosmic higher dimensional beings are so weird they drive men mad!"

        A Langford Basilisk is based on the idea that your mind is analogous to a computer and the Basilisk image is visual data that causes an unrecoverable hard crash. There's nothing magical about the image, the problem happens when your brain tries to make sense of what it is seeing.

        • keepcarrot [she/her]
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          3 months ago

          Oh, I meant the "reading something so perverse and otherworldly you go mad" thing, the source of the text notwithstanding

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    3 months ago

    I mean it gave me a sensible chuckle, that picture is not without humor at all. But the funniest picture ever? It's not even the funniest picture I saw today. Peezer was funnier by far.

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      • Blep [he/him]
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        3 months ago

        Come on, they think they invented god and the best it can rehash when prompted is a warmed over facebook post from 10 years ago. How is that not funny?

        • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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          OK yeah, on a meta level this is kinda funny

          Similar to how minions themselves aren't funny but boomers loving them is funny

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          • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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            3 months ago

            I like minions and I'm not a boomer :(

            I just think their language and slapstick gags are cute

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