because otherwise they’d probably be second at the current moment, tbh doomjak

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    3 months ago

    because otherwise they’d probably be second at the current moment, tbh

    The US military has killed 2 million people per decade every decade since ww2.

    The IDF does not even come close to the US military.

    • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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      3 months ago

      16,000,000 still ain't got nothing on the British Empire's multiple man-made famines that replaced policies of giving food to people who were starving to ensure they didn't die with new policies of not doing that because it enabled them to wield starvation as a cudgel against any and all forms of organized labor. The British Empire killed anywhere from 10 million to 200+ million depending on if you count doing nothing to address public health issues for the poor and especially the colonized as social murder (lib historians do not).

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        3 months ago

        Absolutely, the British empire was unfathomably evil, thanks in no small part to the incredibly open classism of the british aristocracy that never really evolved all that much over feudal times.

    • GaveUp [she/her]
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      3 months ago

      Yea it's been pretty lib seeing people act like Israel is a unique evil but like no, so many countries in the West have already done just as bad or worse but with infinitely better PR

      • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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        3 months ago

        It's really more the horrifying spectacle of it. In Vietnam people had access to rapid or sometimes even live TV news about what was happening in the war, and it changed public opinion drastically. Same with TikTok now. It's hard to swallow any of Israel's bullshit when you've seen footage of children screaming with bones sticking out of their mangled legs, crying near-skeletal because they can't stand the unending pain of starving to death, plastic bags of 70kg of shredded meat each being counted as a person and whatnot.

    • Doubledee [comrade/them]
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      3 months ago

      Is that an average? I'm really curious about your sourcing on that because that's a hell of a mic drop to have in my pocket later.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        3 months ago

        I saw a comrade say it once and I've been repeating it ever since because I know that even if you checked the numbers they'd be fucking BAD. I know for a fact that it's true for the last few decades because the deaths in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and so on are all attributable to the US. Going further back we've got the Korean War. Vietnam. We could also throw in Yemen? Syria. Iran?

        It depends on what you want to attribute to them. But even being conservative the numbers aren't gonna be good are they?

        Someone could do the numbers if they want, I've never felt the need to, that number is horrific and definitely feels right.

          • Awoo [she/her]
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            3 months ago

            Yeah exactly why I've never really cared to check the exact figure. I know damn well it's still awful even if they check it.

    • WhyEssEff [she/her]
      hexagon
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      3 months ago

      yeah I know, just thinking that since she’s saying this aspirationally she’s talking like there’s another army to overcome, which implies Israel since we’re discussing wanton lethality.

      it’s already an instance of “we gotta turn the Hitler dial up” but if you were asking for a counterexample for any army that comes close w/rt unadulterated lethality it’s gotta be Israel, especially if we’re considering the American attention span

  • thelastaxolotl [he/him]
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    3 months ago

    She also mention unlike Trump she will deal with the autocrats, which shows a foreign policy more agressive than Biden's which combined with that policy paper from her team that criticized Trump for not striking Iran after their response for the assasination of their general, means we could see an Iran-US war during her presidency

    • Black_Mald_Futures [any]
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      3 months ago

      oh cool the democrats literally giving me an actual non joking reason to vote for trump, that's great

      I'm too lazy to do it so nobody fucking @ me about it, but like, jesus christ guys

      • thelastaxolotl [he/him]
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        3 months ago

        It was from the Official Democratic Party platform

        All of this [ed: prior 3 paragraphs all about bs Biden did against Iran] stands in sharp contrast to Trump's fecklessness and weakness in the face of Iranian aggression during his presidency. In 2018, when Iranian-backed militias repeatedly attacked the U.S. consulate in Basra, Iraq Trump’s only response was to close our diplomatic facility. In June 2019, when Iran shot down a U.S. surveillance aircraft operating in international airspace above the Straits of Hormuz, Trump responded by tweet and then abruptly called off any actual retaliation, causing confusion and concern among his own national security team. In September 2019, when Iranian-backed groups threatened global energy markets by attacking Saudi oil infrastructure, Trump failed to respond against Iran or its proxies. In January 2020, when Iran, for the first and only time in its history, directly launched ballistic missiles against U.S. troops in western Iraq, Trump mocked the resulting Traumatic Brain Injuries suffered by dozens of American servicemembers as mere “headaches” – and again, took no action

        • Rojo27 [he/him]
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          3 months ago

          Remember when all the libs were losing their minds when Trump ordered the assassination of Solemani? Now its not even a footnote in this revisionist nonsense.

          • Black_Mald_Futures [any]
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            3 months ago

            like what the fuck, right? He almost started a fucking war with that, WHICH THE DEMOCRATS FUCKJING CRITICIZED HIM FOR BUT LIKE NOW IT'S LIKE HE WAS WEAK ON IRAN WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS AHHAHAHHGHGHSAGGQA}| AGH

            • jackmarxist [any]
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              3 months ago

              Dems are just republicans who pretend to be progressive

        • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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          3 months ago

          Trump mocked the resulting Traumatic Brain Injuries suffered by dozens of American servicemembers as mere “headaches”

          Okay Trump sucks but this is hella based

        • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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          3 months ago

          I really can’t get over how fucking insane this paragraph is

          If you were trying to convince me to vote for Trump as the harm reduction candidate, this is what you would write

        • rootsbreadandmakka [he/him]
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          3 months ago

          You know, it’s seeming less and less like Kamala is actually the “harm reduction” candidate

      • thelastaxolotl [he/him]
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        3 months ago

        they will simply use it as evidence of it becoming a narco-state and use it to intervine

  • refolde [she/her, any]
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    3 months ago

    This might be really controversial to say, but I think everyone who cheers this on should literally be crucified and put on display on every street.

    My moral standards have dropped considerably these past several years.

    • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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      3 months ago

      I literally said out loud during her speech “Please Iran this is the time to start your retaliation hit this fucking building with a hypersonic missile kill everyone in this miserable convention please”

    • Amerikan Pharaoh@lemmygrad.ml
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      3 months ago

      I think everyone who cheers this on should literally be crucified and put on display on every street.

      If white liberal society keeps up on the track it's been on, I'm going to become the Black Joshua Graham by like. End of 2025.

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    7 days ago

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  • Hexamerous [none/use name]
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    3 months ago

    i-love-killing-people

    'Murica fuck yeah!

    The world will know why Americans don't have healthcare...

    or basic education...

    or a pension system...

    or infrastructure...

    or...

    • brainw0rms
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      7 days ago

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    • Spike [none/use name]
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      3 months ago

      I am 100% certain that you're incredibly upset and that makes me extremely happy

      • mathemachristian [he/him]
        ·
        3 months ago

        I'm sorry is the volcel police asleep at the wheel or do federated users get a pass??? Wtf

        • VOLCEL_POLICE [it/its]B
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          3 months ago

          Show

          The VOLCEL POLICE are on the scene! PLEASE KEEP YOUR VITAL ESSENCES TO YOURSELVES AT ALL TIMES.

          نحن شرطة VolCel.بناءا على تعليمات الهيئة لترويج لألعاب الفيديو و النهي عن الجنس نرجوا الإبتعاد عن أي أفكار جنسية و الحفاظ على حيواناتكم المنويَّة حتى يوم الحساب. اتقوا الله، إنك لا تراه لكنه يراك.

          volcel-police

            • VOLCEL_POLICE [it/its]B
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              3 months ago

              Show

              The VOLCEL POLICE are on the scene! PLEASE KEEP YOUR VITAL ESSENCES TO YOURSELVES AT ALL TIMES.

              نحن شرطة VolCel.بناءا على تعليمات الهيئة لترويج لألعاب الفيديو و النهي عن الجنس نرجوا الإبتعاد عن أي أفكار جنسية و الحفاظ على حيواناتكم المنويَّة حتى يوم الحساب. اتقوا الله، إنك لا تراه لكنه يراك.

              volcel-police

    • Sephitard9001 [he/him]
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      3 months ago

      Been on Reddit for over a decade

      Yeah and it shows. Never post again. mao-wtf

    • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
      ·
      3 months ago

      Breaking every bone in your body so you can resemble a worm on the outside as a reflection of how disgusting you are on the inside wouldn't be a fraction of what you deserve