Nurses really do be running that whole bell curve. It's actually wild how some nurses are better clinicians than their doctors, and then their co-workers will be like "did you know that Broccoli is a meat I actually inject myself with microplastics as part of my fitness routine?"
My spouse is a nurse and this is very true. One of her coworkers died alone at home lying in a pile of her own feces because she refused to get vaccinated; another nurse was fired for stealing drugs; another explains to every patient she meets that she is Puerto Rican even though she can’t speak Spanish and has never been there (she is just white); I can still get my spouse to mask.
I walked into my house several years ago to my neighbor who was a nurse getting my roommate to forge a doctors signature for a flu shot, because the last time she got one she felt icky for a couple days.
It's honestly fuckin wild the spectrum of people in healthcare I've seen. From sweetest bleeding hearts, incompetent idiots you're amazed are still alive, outright sociopaths, people still in highschool, and peeps you wouldn't let provide care to people you outright despise. For nurses politically it's either liberal or nascant leftist, to outright chud fash.
Anyone that says "As an infection control nurse..." shouldn't be taken at their word. The most braggadocios are normally the least able. Always remember that 50% of doctors/nurses were in the bottom 50% of their class.
I can see it clearly on my unit, I have people that'll take it seriously, people that refuse to mask, and people that refuse to mask and vaccinate. We don't have a problem once we have a confirmed case since at that point it's just PPE enforcement and opinions go out the door.
I will say though that a lot of this shit comes from the top and the CDC has been absolute dogshit at providing guidance thus we have such shitty standards. Though at the same time we all see what COVID does but since it's not going anywhere people are just accepting it as the new normal because what else is there? Lockdown the country, something they didn't even do when there was momentum for it? The ruling class has abandoned all pretenses and people are moving on and just accepting that this is reality for healthcare now and no matter what you do, it finds its way back over and over and over again.
Reading through that thread and that's far too many people using the word 'hence'.
You use it
Edit. Reading further and my god fuck all those libs. The CDC, the CDC, the CDC.... Has been giving terrible policy for the entire pandemic. I wouldn't follow their guidelines unless I'm trying to get people killed.
It's been 4 years man. If you don't want to spread it, wear a mask.
I'm a hospital worker and back in 2020 it was a big deal obviously. Now It's pretty much a non-issue. If you're worried about spreading it, just wear a mask, any type of simple mask will do and sanitize your hands regularly. They're really not being unreasonable.
I agree. Pop a Dayquil and come to work.
Once you feel fine and no symptoms you can return to work. In most places the govt scrapped the 5 day isolation period as once the symptoms are asymptomatic you can’t transfer germs to others as they first thought. If you feel fine and not coughing and spluttering then you go to go. No need even to keep those tests anymore they are not relevant anymore ppl now know that Covid has been around since the 90s so it’s just another cold and it usually passes after feeling crap on the first day af yet perhaps 3-4 days in total. Go back to work when you feel ok is the best idea. Boss is clearly not buying into the old Covid rules and nor should he as it was all an embellished reaction mostly driven by govt ppl - good luck
As someone that had to work everyday during the pandemic, I don’t feel bad when people give employees a hard time for thinking it’s a free vacation. Work still needs to happen. People staying home trashed the economy. In the long run, people need to get over it and get back to work. Are you really going to sit in your bed for 5 days straight?
"line needs to go up, no matter the cost"
As someone with long covid, for most people it is indeed just a flu. If you feel sick stay at home, if you don't feel sick you can just go out. That's the rule in Netherlands. Even though I got COVID and am at home for 8 months and counting, it's a good rule.
"i'm stuck at home with chronic health problems because no one took this seriously, but people taking it even less seriously is good actually." :netherlands-cool:
Regarding that second to last comment, how did the ruling class instill this frogs in the bucket mentality among the working class so effectively? It's one of the most potent ideological weapons of capitalism in my opinion. Upon experiencing injustice at work, 99% of western workers won't think "I deserve better", they'll just get angry thinking about some office worker with slightly better working conditions. It makes me so pessimistic whenever I hear it.
It's part of a pervasive attempt to make every american think they're a member of the petite-bourgeoisie. It is widely acknowledged that working sucks, but the "American Dream" is to simply become the exploiter rather than improve conditions.
- Vilification (and racialization) of the poor makes everybody think they're "middle class". What does middle class mean? Nobody knows as it has no useful definition, other than "not working class".
- Post WWII, suburbs were designed at least partly to get people "invested" into the "market" through owning their own homes (the other part was due to racism). Housing as a commodity means homeowners view themselves as a sort of solo investment firm manager, and therefore more likely to identify with business owners than with employees.
- Similarly, the bourgeois concept of retirement is that eventually a smart and savvy person will be able to save up and live off of passive income, IE landlording and investments, which ties them to the market and means that they have a stake in "the economy". Again, this makes people identify with capitalists over other working people.
- Just generally destroying the labor movement means that workers seeking to better their circumstances can see they only have one path to a better life, that of the used jetski dealer, because any chance of improving working conditions is seen (not inaccurately) as unlikely or impossible.
I think a major contributing factor to this is American reliance on employers for healthcare. It’s a lot easier to quit and seek better working conditions elsewhere if you know major medical expenses won’t ruin you in the interim - this is about 10x as true in America due to the corruption and resulting additional costs endemic to the system.
If America manages to somehow implement single payer, I believe the potency of this ideological weapon would diminish drastically.
I changed jobs recently from one with "good" employer healthcare to one with "good+" employer healthcare. I was in a position to arrange it so that I would not only have no lapse in coverage, I would be double covered for a 2 week period. in fact, both insurance companies are under the same aegis / brand and honor each other's network agreements. I researched this all methodically.
even with every advantage in the world, the transition has been a shit show with emails, phone calls, waiting, more phone calls, etc just to keep my extremely common, regular ass not-fun medication coming. not to mention, I still have to initiate healthcare with a completely new PCP anyway and delay my checkup by 2 months because of it, and NONE of this was communicated to me despite me telling everyone a month in advance.
100% people are locked into shit by the wealthcare system making any minor changes into total shit shows.
so glad I don't use reddit anymore that place is so fucked
a shocking number of healthcare professionals are dumb as bricks and about as useful as a weeping sore on your forehead
never underestimate the propensity of a layperson to larp as an expert on the internet
more importantly never underestimate the propensity of an 'expert' to seamlessly larp as a layperson IRL and also at every point of their existence
symptom dependant
maybe it's me but I prefer to take advice from people who can actually spell the medical terms they use
Now this may sound harsh but I believe everyone in that thread should be killed.
I thought there was a chance that might be harsh, then I clicked through and saw that you were 100% correct. That nurse doesn't know what the fuck she's talking about
Revolution's gunna' be wacky with how many people we gotta' either fuck up, educate, or eradicate.
One of my profs had class on zoom yesterday because he found out he had covid. Ok, thanks man, you’re actually considerate. Then he kept talking about how they just call anything covid these days, it’s just a blanket diagnosis for any respiratory thing.
I hope my nurse (especially at the infection unit) don't go to work sick.
The only advice I actually remotely trust reddit on is resolving obscure technological problems
Absolutely not for health or relationship or life or financial or diet or literally anything else
Every nurse I’ve been in contact with since getting long covid recently has been surprised that covid is still around.
I go to a rheumatologist regularly that's in a hospital building that is MOSTLY rehumatology and cancer patients. Ya know, some of the most immunocompromised people out there.
There's one nurse that still wears a mask. She has a bunch of literature about mask wearing, its importance, and how it not only protects you but others.
Every other nurse looks at me weird for still masking. I already didn't trust the medical system due to how shitty I was treated while trying to get diagnosed with anything, but congratulations to the nurses for making it worse!
"Infection Control Nurse... now I'm a big dummy-dumb about the specifics of medical professions but is that a special thing? Seems like all nurses and doctors would be "infection control whatever" by default as a basic understanding of modern hygiene practices.
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should be a firing offense tbh
