Edit: maybe all bullshit nevermind

  • Circra [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I love how the Americans literally have a doomsday weapon that they threaten everyone with if it looks like things are going a bit badly for their supreme leader and somehow so many Americans have convinced themselves that they're the good guys.

  • ARVSPEX [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    I do not get the logic behind this procedure at all. Is it projection? Do they think the rest of the world pictures them the same way their populace pictures places like the DPRK and thinks one of their leaders becoming incapacitated will result in everyone else running around like headless chickens? Why would anyone risk recreating Fallout solely because a sitting president got sick? This is actually kind of infuriating.

    I know I am preaching to the choir here, but can you imagine the headlines worldwide had The Real Korea done such a thing after Kim, say, had a medical complication?

    • Goth_Whitlam [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      It's so ridiculous. Even at the height of the coldwar the Soviets weren't just going to glass the US because the president got sick.

      Just remember, can't afford healthcare but these planes will be airborne for two weeks straight no doubt.

      • Classic_Agency [he/him,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        Remember that China and India have a no first use nuclear policy. And Russia and the DPRK will only use theirs if attacked.

        There is no reason to expect any of these powers to preemptively strike the US

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        4 years ago

        My understanding of the cold war was that the US was far, far more psychotic than the USSR ever was, and they were terrified of us because we were insane fanatics whose actions were hard to predict.

      • unperson [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        They see the world as deeply, deeply hostile to US interests and it’s only through constant projection of power that we survive.

        They realise capitalism goes against human nature.

    • LeninsRage [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      The deep state/Blob/MIC lunatics almost certainly literally believe that all of America's enemies are chomping at the bit to start a global thermonuclear war at the first opportunity

    • ProfessorAdonisCnut [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      The logic is that if people actually believe that only the president is able to authorize a nuclear strike, they could strike when he's not able to do so. Like how it works in movies. Maybe the Hollywood elite have more power than we thought.

  • ocho [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    why go through the trouble of attacking the US when it’s tearing itself apart in real time? 🤔

  • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    I love how the only country on earth that has a nuclear first strike policy also has a jet that can launch all nukes as a deterrant for nuclear first strike.

    • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      kinda like the u.s is holding the world hostage at the end of a giant fucking fuck off weapon while also playing at being the victim? :shocked-pikachu: whaat nooo that couldnt be

      • RNAi [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Really a cliche third act twisted villain scene

        • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          the u.s. is the bad guy from an awful made for tv lates nineties kids movie that no one really remembers, whose entire evil plot revolves around being so outrageously evil that no one could ever stop the most evil and dastardly machinations muahahaha

          but somehow is successful irl because hellworld

  • RedArmor [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    America is the only country that hasn’t signed an agreement banking first strike nuclear launches. Everyone else is retaliation only

      • phimosis__jones [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        The USSR policy until 1982 was to use nukes in the event of a land invasion of a Warsaw Pact member. Brezhnev declared a no first use policy in 1982 but Yeltsin reversed it in 1993.

        China is the only country “allowed” to have nukes with a no first use policy. The other four permanent security council members reserved the use of nukes in the event of a land invasion. The UK has claimed it would use nukes if the opposing military used some other WMD. The US says it will only use nukes against countries it deems not in compliance with the nonproliferation treaty, which means the US has to lie about you having nukes before nuking you.

  • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    basic explanation for if you can't be arsed to look it up: an multiple EMP shielded flying command centres that can give the order to launch nukes is are in the air

  • Reversi [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    "Adversaries, stay out! We can destroy ourselves!"

    There isn't a nation on the planet that looks at this and thinks "hm, good time to strike"

    • ARVSPEX [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      I know this will definitively result in full-on M.A.D., but I really want to get a suckerpunch in!

  • CoralMarks [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    What do you guys think would happen now if a situation like the one in the Soviet Union where they got a false incoming nuke alert would occur now, like the US getting a false incoming Chinese ICBM reading?
    Would they immediately send their nukes without any second thought, or how would this play out?

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Would they immediately send their nukes without any second thought, or how would this play out?

      Inshallah.

      Probably not though. I don't think any other country has a nuclear policy as psychotic as the US does, and from what I recall the reason no one has ever launched before is all the false alarms have been one nuke on the screen, instead of thousands. And a first strike would be hundreds or thousands of nukes, with some held back for second-strike purposes.

    • Amorphous [any]
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      4 years ago

      I honestly think it wouldn't happen. It takes multiple people to decide to launch the nukes, and just like in that example, I feel like at least one of them somewhere along the way would say, "no, we're not doing that"

      Maybe I'm being overly optimistic, but hey. gotta believe in humans to some extent.

      • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        The Air Force had to come up with a "Jesus loves nukes" slide show because during the cold War, they found out that their predominately Christian personnel were actually having qualms about ending millions of human lives.

        So, have hope.

  • Deadend [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    If Putin is ruling the USA, who is left to shoot a nuke?

    • SerLava [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Ah, of course the people talking about these were full of fucking shit