https://lemmy.world/post/19730104
If you want communists to work with you, try not assassinating their leadership.
If anything, letting Democrats win the next few major elections could spell doom for the Republican party as a whole, and give us a chance to introduce some actual competition to the Democratic party.
Why is there a time traveler from the year 2000 posting on lemmy.world?
Because that worked out so well in California, New York, and Illinois.
I'm sure it's only a matter of time until checks notes political dynasty scion Gavin Newsom presses the communism button in California
They legitimately think the GOP exists because a group of people brainwashed a bunch of people
Could you expand on this a little bit? I don’t think I entirely understand and might even learn something.
Let's start with where you understand, and we will see where we disagree. My position is history is primarily driven by Material Conditions, ie the status of reality itself and what came before it, and not by individuals moving against the current, so to speak.
As an example, if Karl Marx was born in the year 1200, he would not have had the ideas he does, there would be no conception of Dialectical Materialism from him.
I don’t disagree so much as I thought you may have been saying this, but wasn’t sure. Thank you for clarifying.
Perfect! Essentially, to wrap it around, the Republican party exists because the conditions for it exist. The idea that we can "vote blue until the Reps are no more, then a left party will take its place" is wrong, because they won't remove the conditions for a fascist party. The new party will be fascist as well, or permadem rule for right wing Dems, like California.
OP, please tell me that someone in the comment section pointed out that the liberals fucking won that election and it was them appointing Hitler to the Chancellorship that produced that outcome. I'm not looking at that cesspit comment section, I just want to not be nagged by my compulsion to argue over this sort of thing.
God, this might be my least favorite lie, that Hitler won the election. It's completely obviously not true that a single google result will dispel it in five seconds, but people still confidently assert it like the KPD were spoilers. I need to assume that it's intentional deceit at this point.
Edit: Their symbol for the politics com being an "I voted" sticker that says "VOTE" is just perfect, btw
Theres one person there whose actually making sense, and I think theyre a hexbear poster (its cowbee).
Holy shit, this one reply you got is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read lmao
What you call a ‘Process of Material Reality’ could as easily be called G*d or the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
I had to log off, I was getting genuinely upset. It doesn't get better, they get even worse
On the other hand... tagline?
Here it is:
"When could we have voted for a 90% tax rate?"
Eisenhower's presidency did see some tax rates above 90%, but that figure only applied to the individual income taxes of top earners. For married people filing jointly in 1953, for example, any income above $200,000 was taxed at 90%, above $300,000 at 91%, and above $400,000 at 92%.
For someone who claims to know a lot about history, you sure are short on facts.
And if history is a 'physical process' post some pictures of it working. Not pictures of people doing things, because that would prove my point. A discrete physical embodiment of history, please.
And if history is a 'physical process' post some pictures of it working. Not pictures of people doing things, because that would prove my point. A discrete physical embodiment of history, please.
What the absolute fuck does this even mean
If I'm being generous, I legitimately think they just have no clue what I am getting at by trying to baby step them through Historical Materislism, and can't fathom the idea that Great Man Theory is wrong.
They're so cooked I walked away, it was beyond medium-rare, beyond well-done, call that congratulations.
Idk but it's easy to fulfill. Here's a picture of one square meter in a world-historical hurricane
And if climate change is a 'physical process' post some pictures of it working. Not pictures of extreme weather events happening, because that would prove my point. A discrete physical embodiment of climate change, please.
How do you argue with them? Genuinely, i could feel my brain seeping out my ears just perusing the comment section.
Also good work
Inside Cowbee there are two wolves
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml vs. @Cowbee@hexbear.net
Lemmy.ml Cowbee is a cringe debatebro
Hexbear.net Cowbee is a chill dude
Is this dialectics?
KPD? Banned. Ernst? Executed.
SPD? Propped up as the main left party in west germany, still exists, still useless and social fascist.
and yeah calling them social fascists is never expanded on, the fuckers were advocating for colonisation, for war, for fatherland, heaveho
spd ran the police in berlin and are directly responsible for killing Rosa Luxemburg, rip
Guys you don't get it. Ranked choice voting will fix literally everything.
Nuh uh, no way, you aren't tricking me into looking at a lemmyworld comment section. It's friday afternoon and I'm trying to cultivate a beautiful mind palace ova heya
It's pathetic that so many people believe the pinnacle of politics is voting. I can't even imagine how to talk to them or reach them. They live in a different reality.
Also - of course - even though it's ".world" there has to be the American flag and American symbols.
Boy, it's a shame those German liberals weren't progressive enough and let Hitler win. Guess they should have been a better party.
Thanks LFI for proving the libs that winning elections doesn't do shit if you're the left oh wait they don't care about facts
Wasn't the problem that Hindenburg could appoint any chancellor he wanted if he rejected the pick of the legislature? By the time this election happened he had been ruling by emergency decree for like 2 years. And he was a conservative, even an imaginary alliance of centrists with the SPD and KPD would not have been able to force his hand if he didn't want to accept a nomination he didn't like, and he didn't like the socialists or the communists.
Woah, imagine just rejecting a leader put forward by a democratically elected coalition
:macron:
This type of revisionism is off putting to "normies." I don't know if that will change with widespread normalization, but, for the current time, people are still (correctly) primed to respond with "wait... what the fuck?"
Anecdotal: I was discussing with a friend who isn't tuned in to basically anything explicitly "political" especially online Nazi shit. It came up due to a meme where girls were asking guys how often they thought about Rome. And I was like "yeah, for a few people it's probably for actual historical comparisons, but for most of them that's a red flag. They're just obsessed with the power and the glory aesthetics from the past. Like the Nazis."
Then I was continuing on with something like "many of them ironically agree with the Nazis, although they will always say they do not. A fundamental thing that they agree on, a core aspect of fascism and Nazism, was their hatred for communism and specifically the USSR in the case of Nazis. A lot of them have spent time trying to pretend that the Soviets were as bad as the Nazis. There's no actual basis for this, it's known as Holocaust revisionism which is akin to holocaust denialism, but they will say it nonetheless. Perhaps unaware that they are just saying Nazi talking points."
Her only response was "what the fuck? Why?"
I just let her wonder why/place that puzzle piece as she feels fit... but if you're just saying Nazi talking points and making shit up to make their crimes seem less significant, well, I know what I call those people...
That famous "communist" Hindenburg.......
Also for the sake of argument and ignoring their rancid revisionism; for their bullshit analogy to work the Democrats would have to be the party NOT actively engaging in a genocide
So are they saying we SHOULD vote for Republicans??? These people are neo-nazis and nothing they say should be taken seriously, they are ecstatic the dems are helping commit one of the greatest crimes of the 21st century because they think that signals a sea change for normalizing soft fascism, a comfortable, respectable collage educated, trust fund version of fascism that will keep the treats flowing and the minorities contained without all the crassness of the Trumpers
These people think it's funny to play around with genocide and neo-nazism because their daddy's home value reads 1 million+
they're worried about trump doing a genocide of liberals or something. they don't care about the genocide that is actually happening rn
Liberals 1. only care about themselves, and 2. view non-Americans and nonwhite people as untermensch
Libs while they murder you for opposing their genocide: " Maybe you should be nicer to me :/ "
, WONDER WHY? 
