• throwawaylemmy [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    You truly hate to see it.

    I wish he told them to fuck off this time around instead of kowtowing a second time.

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      That's how it was gonna be if he lost, though. Either we win and Bernie at least gives us a shot at making real transformations... or we lose, and the democrats flex on us by parading Bernie around like the Romans dragging Vercingetorix through the streets of Rome.

  • tofunaut [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    it's ok neolibs, you can laugh. it sucks and we got owned. 100% owned. totally rolled. just wanted that healthcare but yeah no I get it. hahahahaha

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      We will try our best for your grandchildren to have the same fate as us.

    • captchaintherye [any]
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      4 years ago

      I support you in saying Fuck Joe Biden, but more importantly, Fuck Anyone Who Votes For Joe Biden. Because you are ensuring that this underhanded ratfucking shit works whenever they pull it.

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          I put time money and effort into the Sanders campaign and I'm not bothered by "disrespect" being thrown around. I think it's important to learn from the mistakes we made. I'm pissed that all that time money and effort was wasted. I'm pissed that nothing came of it. I'm not going to sit around whining about people being mean because I wasted that energy, I'm going to try and take the situation that we're left with and build something from it.

          Stop fucking whining about people being mean and do something. The energy behind Sander's campaign didn't occur in a bubble. Just because he dropped out doesn't mean people stopped experiencing the conditions that made him popular. He grifted us into thinking he could save us with a small donation and a moment of our time, but we should have known better. Only we can save ourselves.

      • modsarefascist [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        exactly, thank you. so few don't realize how incredibly powerful the president is worldwide. The US is far far faaaar more right wing in it's dealings with the rest of the world than it even is at home, which is saying something.

  • anarchokamalism [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Bernie should've dropped the Democratic Party after loosing the nom and started a leftist party and just unapologetically pushed for democratic socialism. Would've been cool.

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      Bernie's like three hundred years old, let the man rest

      What he showed us is that there really, truly is a great portion of America open to trying to create a better world. Most of them are libs, most of them have really shit opinions on a lot of stuff, but they can be reached and they can be educated and they can be allies. We've got a hell of a job ahead of us, but it's possible.

      But it's not gonna be Bernie that gets us there

      • modsarefascist [he/him]
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        IDK, the main thing his runs have showed me is how unbelievably powerful the national news media is. They say it and soon enough it becomes "reality".

        The biggest thing that could possibly be done to help America would be to strengthen independent media outlets, like TYT, Democracy Now, Majority report, etc. If as many people were watching those as were watching Rachel Maddow do 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon Putin every night then we might get some progress. Trying to get libs to jump straight into a fully socialist news (if any exists) wouldn't work, but the liberal left would.

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      Tbf I don’t blame him, spending his whole political career dealing with ghouls to achieve the smidgeon of power he’s gained would be tough to throw away. It’s up to people with less to lose for that.

  • Phish [he/him, any]
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    4 years ago

    Still looking at that top picture and wondering what happened...

    • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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      Bernie was Obama 2.0, he was the establishment's best chance of sacrificing a little to save their institutions. They decided those small concessions were too much and scuttled his campaign sealing the end of those institutions.

      We're in the formative years of a new world, one that will be defined by constant and persistent violent struggle until either the last human dies or a better world is made.

      His loss could end up being a good thing if we can use all that social energy he would have dissapated for something good.

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        Obama 2.0

        That’s not giving enough credit, Obama didn’t campaign on anything as radical (for septics) as Medicare For All, free college, Green New deal, actually taxing the rich etc

        • Coca_Cola_but_Commie [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          I agree. Not that it matters, but if anything Bernie was an FDR 2.0. The reestablishment of the welfare state (which, compared to the amount of money the capitalist class has really is a small concession) in order to save liberal democracy from fascism/destabilization/socialist-primacy-in-the-remaing-three-quarters-of-the-21st-century (save my people, Xi, I beg you).

          Assuming Bernie could've made good on any of his plans.

          • blobjim [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Except Obama is a CIA asset, and Bernie is an actual socialist.

            • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Maybe at some point, but not now. He's just one of the few who didn't have their humanity ground to pulp by the machine. He would have listened to the machine if he got into power, maybe putting up resistance and getting us some concessions here and there, but he was never a solution.

        • RandomWords [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          obama ran on a pretty progressive platform actually, he just didn't deliver like anything he promised. he ran on cutting emissions by 80% by 2050, regulating corporations, public option, raising minimum wage...

          he just never did any of it.

    • VILenin [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Social democracy when

      when you run out of third world countries to plunder

  • LoMeinTenants [any]
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    4 years ago

    The oversized American flag is cringe. Should have just stuck one of those little ones on the podium served with a fiesta cocktail.

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      He's Bernie Sanders campaigning for the people who ratfucked him AGAIN, he's hella cringe

    • captchaintherye [any]
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      4 years ago

      Biden was attracting sad rallies full of old people in January too.

      • theChariot [any]
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        4 years ago

        Dude couldn’t even fill a high school gym in Iowa but now he’s coasting to the presidency because of Covid lmao

    • throwawaylemmy [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      I mean that excuse would hold water if Bidet wasn't a distant... fifth? Tenth?... twelveth???? during the primary.

      He has no enthusiasm. Even his phone-bankers know it.