They will be confused that mail in ballots sent counted till much later
Then cry
The polling is ridiculously in Biden's favor, it's actually crazy for a presidential election. Trump's only real shot is some gigantic election fraud. Still pretty unlikely but 2020 do be like that sometimes
I'll prob get flack for this, but this election isn't the same as 2016. People know exactly how Trump runs (or doesn't) the country now. People know how bad shit continues to get with him and his insane cabinet. We also knew what type of person Clinton was too, which is why she had such a staunch opposition from left right and center. Tons of usual disinterested voters are fucking pissed about covid and how it has been handled, among other things. I think that in itself makes this election different enough to have a bit more faith in the misleading and terrible polling we had last election. Plenty of folks are annoyed enough hearing about trump 24/7 they'll just vote against him.
Its also far more conceivable that someone who supported Trump would be willing to swap over to Biden than Hillary
I'm pretty sure it's happening with a lot of old voters. There was a goddamn grandma yelling fuck trump at the luxury retirement community at The Villages lol. I don't think The Villages is very left leaning but they relate to like everything Biden is in politics for them
"getting to not think of the president for like a week at a time" is no shit a pretty good sell after the last four years
to the type of people who normally only do politics every 4 years? abso-fucking-lutely
Shit, it sounds nice to me. You know how happy I was in the early '10s? I miss not being constantly bombarded with horror every goddamn day. I'll still follow politics, I always have- but it's nice to be able to watch a movie or read a book without having that dull screaming in the back of my mind
I guess the calculation is that if there's significant enough voting disruption, it doesn't matter how people would have voted, there's going to be a crisis.
Early voting is also several times higher than it ever has been
Y'all think the military industrial complex and big finance is keen on starting the boogaloo? They already got a puppet with compliant handlers ready to take over. Why would they let shit escalate from here?
Just absolute crazy amounts of Von Papen energy right here.
The polling is ridiculously in Clinton’s favor, it’s actually crazy for a presidential election.
Biden's gonna fuckin lose.
Biden is way ahead of Clinton.
COVID and the resulting fallout have cost Trump his chance.
Clinton had a 70% chance of winning, it was not crazy for a presidential election
this is the main reason right here. people can lie to polls but democrats vote by mail more than republicans and early / mail voting is just so far ahead
That doesn't mean much. The Democrats who voted on Election Day are voting by mail, that doesn't mean the final number will change because of that.
The Republicans who voted on Election Day and aren't voting by mail will still vote on Election Day. Again, the final number isn't changed.
Plus, Dems voting by mail = Trump looking like a clear winner on election night = a legal challenge at the "suspicious" Biden bump = Dems folding and letting Trump make himself the winner.
Biden will not be President.
She did win the popular vote but the electoral college is fucked, Biden will either do the same or manage to win despite it
If Trump already lost the popular vote in 2016 now is going to get steam rolled
There's a half-baked thought coming from this rambling, but
when Trump won despite polling favoring Hillary in places she outright lost - I heard a guy talking about Jesse Ventura when he won governor of Minnesota. The same thing happened then, exit polls showing that he was getting whipped, because people that were voting for him were embarrassed/ashamed/just didn't want to get scolded. I think Trump supporters now are obviously more vocal, but it really didn't feel like it in 2016 - at least not to that extent.
So if it would hurt your friendships, your job, etc to say you were voting Trump (these being the rest of his voter base that roll conservative regardless) - why would you fess up to it, polls included.
Many more libs are doing mail in than republicans. All trump has to do is get the courts to not allow ballots to be counted after election day, declare victory election night, and bingo bango bongo; 4 more years.
get the courts to not allow ballots
This bit here is doing a whole lot of work for your argument. Ultimately, I don't think the actual movers and shakers in the US would go to bat for Trump when a perfectly acceptable neoliberal ghoul replacement is available.
Yes. Some libs were trying to tell me that he was running a radical environmentalism campaign against Bush, and so he was seen as a threat to the status quo, but that's just false.
Nader was running on something similar to the GND, iirc, and Gore was calling it crazy, over-the-top, and unnecessary. He suggested a pretty modest carbon tax, and only made his switch on environmentalism well into GWB's first term. People seem to think that An Inconvenient Truth came out like right after the election, but it wasn't released until half way through Bush's second term.
Gore was a shit candidate, running on standard neolib policies, and he lost because of that. And some elections fraud in Florida.
Yeah but Bush was like "if you let me win then I'll do 9/11 and we can go to war"
Yeah I don't disagree with that and I can absolutely see him just not being able to pull of the kind of electioneering he needs to win. However I still see the situation I outlined as a possible path for him. If Bernie was the nominee I don't think he would have any trouble getting it to happen, but like you say, Biden is totally acceptable to those movers and shakers
Because right now his odds are far better than Hilary's were when the pussy tape leaked. Its possible, even likely they'll tighten again, but Trump's path to victory seems much more narrow. It also doesn't even feel like Trump's trying anymore.
I think the R know they can't win at this point and are aiming to leave everything as fucked up as possible so as soon as Biden enters the whitehouse their "THIS IS LIFE UNDER BIDEN" schtick will actually start to land. Unless the Dems go full purge against the people who've been condoing killing and murdering them for fun for the last 4 years then it will work swimmingly. Biden will die probably in the next year. Harris will take-over and the republicans will go even more insane.
The two big plays recently are the Supreme Court thing and denying another stimulus. The Supreme Court thing is good for them regardless. Lose by a lot and its still fucked up for decades, lose by only a little and the court can maybe turn it into a win. The stimulus is where it really seems like they're throwing things. The idea of no stimulus until January is horrifying, both because people need the money and becauss it'll normalize not getting money so much that Biden won't give us much either.
Good.
the dying will continue until the politics of masses improves. Or turns more into fascism.
Spoken like somebody who aint hurting at all.
Go back to your wine parties and netflix, bougie
Won’t the mail-in ballots be counted weeks after the election takes place? And won’t most Republicans commit suicide by voting in person on election day, leading media outlets to declare victory for Trump the same night, only for us to learn months later that Biden won, like Bernie did in Iowa eighty lifetimes ago?
Most state require ballots to arrive by election day or a few days after, in theory it shouldn't take more than a week but America can't handle primary turnout so
Postmarked by election day, not arrived to the counting facility.
Not in my state baybee
For voters within the country, all absentee ballots must arrive at your county election office by Election Day.
Straight from https://georgia.gov/vote-absentee-ballot
Because everyone wants to go back to calling Jair Bolsonaro a "respectable world leader" when Biden starts being friendly with him.
It makes really fuckin anxious. Like you know these GOP fucks must have something in the works. Whether it's stalled because of Trump's health, or they already have the legal loophole paperwork and ground plan laid out with Amy Coney Barrett's confirmation, or they're plotting some false flag to really turn the country against leftists, it's just been... too quiet.
It's funny that with all the non-stop crazy shit happening in the news cycle, you consider it to be "too quiet"
But still, I kinda know what you mean, probably something big in the works
false flag
if they were to do this would they burn down the White House?
What the fuck was this last year even? I feel like our simulation is getting boring so the watchers are just unleashing whatever weird scenarios they think of.
Because they wanna cast the "Hillary has already won" spell again to own the libs
I feel the opposite way. He is Teflon Don for a reason. Nobody else can do what he does and they are afraid to lose him. I think lots of Republicans will pretend they are going to vote against him, but would never vote against the R in reality
Also the base! Will they just move on from trump is he loses? Just go with whoever the next republican is? Idk
Trump getting COVID is a large factor in this but the shitlibs will continue to
underestimateblissfully allow GOP fuckery so they can feign outrage to boost donationsSo it will be extra funny when he poops himself to death the day before the election.
