Look, I don't care if Hasan has money, silencing the largest pro-palestine voice we have and allowing Zionists to paint everyone who speaks out against their genocide as anti-Semitic is bad.
It's not about Hasan. The largest streaming platforms are going to make talking about the genocide illegal. Good chance the rest of the internet follows. This isn't 1950s anymore; YouTube, Insta, TikTok, Twitch, Twitter. As stupid as it is, these are the places people under 70 get their news from now. We've seen feds try to ban TikTok already, they wouldn't do that if this shit didn't change minds.
Control of the narrative and propaganda is insanely powerful and basically the main tool western imperialism uses to control it's people. Total narrative control of the internet is their last step to crush the last little bit of truth that leaks through and causes trouble for them.
I don't think we should be downplaying this as just Twitch drama. The western left hardly has any tools, maybe we shouldn't do the feds job for them and provide 0 resistance to the dismantling of the tiny amount of voice we have.
These zionists also are only singling out Hasan right now because they already successfully got most of the smaller Arab and pro-Palestinian streamers banned for making a joke about hummus.
This is the new McCarthyism, with the bill conflating antisemitism with anti-Zionism.
who has described… a Jewish man as a “bloodthirsty pig”
Feel like who the Jewish man in question is is pertinent
If Y'all can critically support Asad and Putin y'all damn well better critically support Hasan. This an attempt to silence someone who supports palestine by conflating anti semitism and Zionism. It doesnt matter who it is, it just matters that Zionists dont have control over social platforms.
There’s a difference between “it’s bad that zionists are weaponising antisemitism to silence people” and “the gaming streamer is the best hope for the spread of socialism, and the most important voice on earth about the Palestinian issue, we must stan”
they said "critically support", not "act as if he is the second coming of Lenin himself"
"assad is the best hope for the spread of socialism, and the most important voice on earth about building a socialist world, we must stan."
Literally who is saying that, I’m not sure if you’re supposed to be mocking me, doing a bit, being serious.. Maybe I’m just too dumb to understand this epic own. If only there was a streamer to explain it to me.
The reason you're saying we shouldn't critically support Hasan apply just as easily to some of the people Hexbear does support. My comment wasn't saying, "Hasan is good actually," only that the same logic that leads us to critically support Russia and Syria leads us to support Hasan.
I took your comment directed to Hasan and applied it to Assad, then posted emojis to show the site's implied endorsement of him.
Another part of your comment was that Hasan just isn't that important, just a streamer ect. But, in the current world he is functionally a journalist that reaches millions of people. Regardless, importance determines stakes, not position. Even if this situation is relatively petty, which is very arguable, the position we should take, critical support, is clear to me.
The fact I’m now receiving arguments drawing equivalence between nation-states and twitch streamers behooves me to say
This is a really embarrassing dismissal of a comrade who is trying sincerely to get through to you. Be better.
bro if I invite you to a tea party and you don't tow the party line on which of my stuffies is being a lib ima come after you. This has nothing to do with how big the stakes are and everything to do with how you are assessing this situation. This being a lower stakes situation than the war in Ukraine doesn't give you a free pass to not think critically.
you have lib stuffies? damn
kidding i agree completely
but also like gulag that lib stuffie this is outrageous
When they make me the commissar of plushie affairs all of the lib ones will be re-educated and given beautiful hats and a hammer & sickle embroided onto them
Twitch streamers are the exact same as heads of state who have armies at their disposal.
I was absolutely on the fence about Hasan but that's because I just didn't care for his format ( not going to watch 8 hours ) but the YouTube algorithm has started feeding me clips that someone spends a lot of time sifting through his streams and curating and you know what, critical support to Hasan.
I critically support Assad because he's funneling arms to the Resistance in Palestine. I critically support Putin because his army is turning NATO wunderwaffen into scrap metal. How about we dial it back a notch? You don't have to compare a Twitch streamer to heads of state to make your point.
This guy represents one of the poorest districts in the country and spends 90% of his waking hours tweeting about "antisemetic" college students and what not, almost a parody of what people think of as a corrupt US politician.
"if you insult anyone who is jewish you are an antisemite"
BadEmpanada was right about the weaponized allegation of "antisemetism".
Last week when Torres tweeted about Hasan, posting a Destiny orbiter-created clip, which is cut short to make it seem like Hasan denied the possibility of October 7 sexual violence, Hasan mused over whether he should sue Torres. Presumably Hasan is going through with it and not speaking about it publicly
Edit: Ethan's subreddit overwhemingly sides with Hasan over this letter
That is hilarious that they're all on Hasan's side (or at least not on Torres'). So I'm kind of confused, I assumed he was some hyper liberal like destiny, but the fan responses here make me think he was a leftist who just went super Zionist Nazi on this one issue?
They're feeling lucky after their previous successful campaign to get a handful of smaller MENA streamers banned. It is kind of amazing that apparently congress steps in over online insults now.
Yeah lol, but it's crazy they're trying to use the government powers to silence probably the only leftist with a sizeable audience. However Hasan doesn't come close to the viewer numbers of fascist propagandists like Daily Wire, Tim Pool, Crowder etc.
I bet the
won't call this "cancel culture" though.I'd put money on Fox News personalities like Ben Shapiro and Tucker Carlson have more viewers each day than all of Twitch combined.
Yeah definitely. Which really makes you wonder why viewership this small has to be censored by libs.
However Hasan doesn't come close to the viewer numbers of fascist propagandists like Daily Wire, Tim Pool, Crowder etc.
Hasan has more viewers than any of these guys. He's one of the biggest streamers on twitch.
He gets similar Youtube view numbers to Daily Wire (which is an entire corporation involving many right-wing figures) and more views than Tim Pool and Crowder.
I could have sworn he is much smaller, did he grow a lot more in the last 4 years?
He passed 100k live viewers during Janurary 6th. He's been one of the top streamers on twitch for a while.
My money is on Hasan + co getting permabanned by the end of the year. It seems like the liberal-nazi Reddit troll farms will actually have the power to bully people off of Twitch as long as advertisers aren't willing to advertise on media that opposes the state of Israel. Some of them will probably do fine on platforms like YouTube, but the Palestine version of the red scare, is alive and well.
Sidebar there definitely needs to be a term coined for the anti-Palestinian witch hunts that have been going on, I've seen "the new McCarthyism", but that doesn't really do it justice, and the green scare is already taken describing the US crackdown on environmental protestors in the 2000s. Maybe the "Palestine Panic", that's the best I've got.
Sidebar there definitely needs to be a term coined for the anti-Palestinian witch hunts that have been going on, I've seen "the new McCarthyism",
I think we can just call it Genocide denialism
I think it's more similar to the red scare in the way that people are trying to get people fired/deplatformed that hasn't really happened since except maybe post 9/11. Although it is for sure genocide denialism.
I agree but I'd say that another similar time was the lead up to the Iraq war, through the early part of the insurgency where people still thought we could win.
Like everyone was so bloodthirsty and brutal to anyone who objected.
Then we started getting our asses kicked and everyone turned on a dime and pretended they were against the Iraq war from the start.
His banning is inevitable. The only thing saving him now is he is Twitch's cash cow, but they'll kill the cash cow and all geese laying golden eggs for the sake of crushing any whiff of anti-Zionism.
Instead of trying to compare him to heads of state like some cringey stan, the real thing people should work towards is building a new platform for him to stream under. Imagine if he's able to stream on Peertube. Since Peertube is not under corporate control, him streaming there means he's safe from Zionist censorship and it platforms Peertube as an open-source alternative to Twitch and Youtube. Or maybe he could just stream directly from his personal website. Whatever path he takes, he needs to start doing the prep work now and depending on what he does, he might need to hire people with the technical expertise to pull it off, which requires money.
