It gets dark too soon

  • Guamer [she/her]
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    20 days ago

    Reminder that 2 years ago getting rid of it unanimously passed the senate, but not the house, so we're still stuck with it. It's an excellent example to point to about how both parties never get anything actually beneficial done no matter how universally popular it is, but somehow manage to give trillions to Israel no problem. It's something just about any American can wrap their head around.

    • thethirdgracchi [he/him, they/them]
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      20 days ago

      I want to point out that it only passed the Senate because nobody knew what they were voting for and nobody bothered to block it. After they found out what the bill actually was a bunch of Senators came out against it, after they had already passed it.

      Per: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/paulmcleod/daylight-saving-time-senate

      • Rom [he/him]
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        20 days ago

        porky-scared-flipped You mean we passed a bill that actually helps people?!

  • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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    20 days ago

    I’m with you, but I’m gonna be pedantic anyway: Daylight saving time is the summer time with more light in the evening. Standard time is the garbage one we’re about to switch back to where it gets dark super early.

  • sexywheat [none/use name]
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    20 days ago

    Even the FARMERS hate it, even though it’s ostensibly for them.

    I recall reading a Reddit thread on /r/farming where they were all bitching about how fucking pointless and stupid it is, with one user commenting “My work day starts when the sun rises, and the sun doesn’t care what our fucking clocks say what time it is”

    Unlimited genocide on daylight savings time

    • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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      20 days ago

      People say it’s for farmers, but obviously that’s nonsense. The intention was to reduce energy use, by shifting things so when people get off work they spend more time outside instead of inside using energy.

      Also because the guy who came up with it wanted to spend more time catching bugs iirc.

      Also if it has any effect on energy use it’s unclear which direction and it’s less than 1% either way, which is not enough to justify the increased car accidents, heart attacks, etc. that happen every time we shift the clocks.

  • Adkml [he/him]
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    20 days ago

    Seriously fuck this shit. Starting next week gonna be fucking dark out when i leave for work and dark out half an hour before I leave work. Super stoked to not have any waking hours during daylight to do what I want on weekdays for the next 4 months.

    • REgon [they/them]
      hexagon
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      20 days ago

      "I forgot how dark winters are" I exclaim every year, forgetting that The Man has Fucked With The Clock

      • Adkml [he/him]
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        20 days ago

        The problem is all summer I lie to myself and say it's really not so bad except for like 6 weeks from the end of December till February then we change the clocks and I have to get blinded by giant fucking trucks for 45 minutes every night.

        This is a serious problem and not a petty personal grievance that's an obvious consequence of living whre I chose to.

        • REgon [they/them]
          hexagon
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          20 days ago

          Yeah exactly. Winters are dark, but it's really only 6-7 weeks, or it would be if it WEREN'T FOR THE FUCKING FARMERS GETTING TO DECIDE OUR CLOCKS FOR SOME REASON DEATH TO THEM DEATH TO FARMERS I WILL BE THE REVERSE POL POT DEATH- [Editors note: The rant continues for 15 minutes in like manner. Transcription ends here]

            • REgon [they/them]
              hexagon
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              20 days ago

              This joke is flying over my head, but I am sure it's very funny so I've upbeared it

                • REgon [they/them]
                  hexagon
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                  20 days ago

                  That is funny and very clever! Thanks for explaining it
                  Also big fan of your profile name

          • Adkml [he/him]
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            20 days ago

            The fucking tractors can drive themselves with GPS and track how much they've harvested through sensors to know when to swap tractors. Pretty sure they can figure out how to turn on the fucking headlights.

  • imogen_underscore [it/its, she/her]
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    20 days ago

    DST sucks. i often think about how it probably kills a measurable number of people every year by slightly spiking car accidents and stuff in the morning when the time goes back.

    • GiorgioBoymoder [none/use name]
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      20 days ago

      you're exactly right, it is measurable.

      pedestrian deaths: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0001457503000150

      deaths of despair: https://web.gc.cuny.edu/sites/default/files/2021-07/Saving-Light%2C-Losing-Lives-How-Daylight-Saving.pdf

  • Rom [he/him]
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    20 days ago

    On the one hand, DST is annoying and disruptive. On the other hand, it no longer serves any practical purpose whatsoever.

    Really glad we still have to put up with this shit.

    • REgon [they/them]
      hexagon
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      20 days ago

      On the other hand, it no longer serves any practical purpose whatsoever.

      In a way this would be a positive. Or there's a bright side. We can, as a society, all agree to do something completely pointless and stupid. Would be cool if we funnelled that energy towards something sillier. What if we all agreed that a certain tuesday just didn't exist or something? I dunno, could be wacky, could be nice. Instead we have DST.

  • blight [he/him]
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    20 days ago

    Counterpoint: death to capitalism, death to the workday

    • REgon [they/them]
      hexagon
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      20 days ago

      Also that, but in any society there will probably be broad agreement about chronology (yes I know watch time came as a result of industrial revolution and the attitude we have now is very recent and so on and so forth) so we do risk creating a socialist utopia with daylight savings just as a result of when people meet each other. If everyone around you says it's 6 pm then it's 6 pm and if there's cultural values tied to 6 pm, like "now it's evening" then it's the evening.

  • 2Password2Remember [he/him]
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    20 days ago

    couldnt give less of a fuck about the difference between standard and daylight savings time, i just hate the switching

    Death to America

      • 2Password2Remember [he/him]
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        19 days ago

        it's gonna be dark a lot in winter whether we use standard time or daylight savings, the difference between it being dark early in the evening or late into the morning is just a matter of taste

        Death to America

  • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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    20 days ago

    You have it backwards. Death to standard time. Daylight savings is during the summer. We're about to go back to regular time.

    • spectre [he/him]
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      20 days ago

      That's just changing your territory over to an adjacent time zone. Still kills the whole "daylight savings"nonsense of changing clocks.

    • REgon [they/them]
      hexagon
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      19 days ago

      Ah whoops, well you know what I mean. The concept of daylight savings I guess

  • Tom742 [they/them, any]
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    20 days ago

    I do shift work so when DST hits I usually get an extra hour of work that day. honk-enraged

    • REgon [they/them]
      hexagon
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      19 days ago

      I know that feeling. Have some buddies working on ships and on the days that shift rollover happens... Despair

      • Tom742 [they/them, any]
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        19 days ago

        I’ve heard stories of people losing their birthdays by crossing the date line, lol

  • Bobson_Dugnutt [he/him]
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    20 days ago

    My question is, when are we going to spend some of this daylight that we have saved up?

    • m532 [she/her]
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      20 days ago

      It's the grey men from momo, stealing our time

      We'll never get it back unless we raid their vault of stolen time

  • stigsbandit34z [they/them]
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    20 days ago

    So many ways in which this shithole country is still hopelessly stuck in the past

    And we’ll never get out without force (and force is swiftly crushed by the shithole’s surveillance apparatus)

    • REgon [they/them]
      hexagon
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      19 days ago

      in theory yes, but in practice 6 pm would just become "morning time" for whoever lived where 6 pm occured in the morning. The way we think about time is in many ways a cultural construction. There's linguists that write about this, it's pretty interesting

  • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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    20 days ago

    Daylight savings time sucks because its noon is offset from solar noon, but I think most people think we're going to daylight savings time when we're actually exiting daylight savings time into standard time. Standard time is better because its noon is (mostly) synced with solar noon. And since we spend the majority of the year in daylight savings time, the noon that's on our clocks doesn't actually correspond to anything since the sun is at its highest at like 1pm. Real simulacrum hours.

    • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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      20 days ago

      People get confused because the names are absurd and backwards. How is it “Daylight Saving” when you move the daylight towards the evening? Thats Daylight Spending if anything. We’re putting it where we can use more of it! Daylight Saving would be shifting away from the evening.

      But also I don’t particularly care if clock noon matches solar noon. I don’t want to leave work in the dark, and it would be significantly easier to stay on DST year round than to force every business and employer to shift their hours forward so I don’t leave work in the dark.

      • REgon [they/them]
        hexagon
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        19 days ago

        How is it “Daylight Saving” when you move the daylight towards the evening? Thats Daylight Spending if anything.

        Jerry Seinfeld, is that you?

    • REgon [they/them]
      hexagon
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      19 days ago

      Ah fuck. Can I cop out and say I mean the concept of DST then? Obviously we'd stay on summer time.