That was one of the biggest tragedies in recorded history. Do you even know what it did to the economy? It was like Black Monday on a 5x multiplier.
The World Trade Center, keyword TRADE. This isn't pokemon shit, this is real-world stocks and dollars. The portfolios were ruined.
The next time you laugh at that, think about the human beings that had their vacation bonuses decimated that day. Think about how the economic blow made countries like China catch up to us. Just think about that.
I still love how these were made within hours of the first plane hitting
It was worth every second of dial up months later discovering these
Logging in to something awful, typing in "9/11" and seeing what posts showed up was always a treat.
The whole goal of 9/11 failed completely too. It was supposed to unite the Muslim world against the US and make america reflect upon its actions (lol). Instead you got shit like ISIS who thought killing innocent civilians (usually other muslisms) was cool and good.
The man was trained by the Americans he thought like an American
I'll never make fun of the reactionary counter-revolution that brought down the Allende government on 9/11/1973
We thought quick on our feet and got lucky with that one, but we won't be as lucky with the next propaganda campaign.
I would never joke about 9/11 to someone who actually lost friends or family during the event. On an individual level, it really was an unspeakable tragedy and immensely traumatizing for thousands of people.
But meanwhile the US government will still not apologize for nuking Japan twice, pulverizing primary schools and killing 30x as many people in the blink of an eye. So yeah, on that scale 9/11 is a hilarious joke indeed.
Just the amount of cancer that spiked over the years following the attack was horrible. : p
It's a consequence of war that I don't see discussed very much - Burning buildings, collapsing buildings, the chemicals left over from explosives, various fuels and other chemicals, all take a toll on the survivors of modern armed conflict and I rarely if ever see that accounted for. Like Fallujah, with the spike in birth defects after the battle in 2004. It doesn't have to just be from DU. There are many other toxic materials that are released in to the air when a building is destroyed.
As someone who’s lost people during 9/11 and saw the towers fall from New Jersey… you can make fun of me for all of the above.
meanwhile the US government will still not apologize for nuking Japan twice, pulverizing primary schools and killing 30x as many people in the blink of an eye.
I'm uncomfortable with jokes about anything where innocent people dying is the punchline. I don't agree with the reasoning that because the US Government hasbt officially apologised to the Japanese people, then its justified to nake light of the deaths of people in the WTC.
In my view, it's not that 9/11 can't be joked about, but rather where the punchline lands. One that satirises Bush or the jingoism afterwards is different than one that implies the joker is happy about the deaths of random secretaries and janitors just because most of them were US citizens.
3,000 innocents vs 5,000 American soldiers KIA vs 500k--2mil dead Afghanis and Iraqis...
I stand with Flava Flav--911 is still a joke
sorry the second you said 9/11 i started laughing uncontrollably
The worst thing about 9/11 is people want to make it into some kind of conspiracy or terrorist attack. The universe can't just be a chaotic place where things randomly and arbitrarily happen. Planes can't crash and it be a totally normal mechanical/atmospheric thing, even though these same people acknowledge that happens multiple times per year. It has to be some Scooby Doo mystery where 19 people "hijacked" planes or the bad guy of the week did it to be evil.
It wasn't random or arbitrary, it was a direct consequence of amerikkka's foreign policy
You're right, but the comment above was something of an absurdist joke.
(3) You may then dispute that all the above does not justify aggression against civilians, for crimes they did not commit and offenses in which they did not partake:
(a) This argument contradicts your continuous repetition that America is the land of freedom, and its leaders in this world. Therefore, the American people are the ones who choose their government by way of their own free will; a choice which stems from their agreement to its policies. Thus the American people have chosen, consented to, and affirmed their support for the Israeli oppression of the Palestinians, the occupation and usurpation of their land, and its continuous killing, torture, punishment and expulsion of the Palestinians. The American people have the ability and choice to refuse the policies of their Government and even to change it if they want.-Osama bin Laden
When people pin the accidents on Osama bin Laden, that's just sad to me. Boeing is to blame for whatever fault caused the accidents. Maybe the FAA.
19 guys with letter openers casually pulling off the biggest massacre in human history
Anybody could say that. I could say it right now. Does that mean I did 9/11? He just made up his involvement for clout, to get more clicks, people do stuff like that all the time.
I get how it might be psychologically comforting to find some bad actor you can point fingers at, but sometimes accidents happen. You can't just blame Al Qaida or some other boogeyman every time you stub your toe.
I can't believe you would just admit to it like that. SMH my head. 😔
OK look, did I cause 9/11? Yes. But it was still an accident and I can't be held responsible.
I was just trying to get a tan on top of a nearby rooftop, and I didn't think anyone could see me. How was I supposed to know that two seperate pilots would swerve over to try to get a better look and each hit one of the towers?
The collapse of the towers and the crashes weren't causally related, it was just a really funny coincidence. These things happen. It's a big universe.
ironically, 9/11 is Airplane! for millennials. People born after us will forever be confused as to why we find it so funny
Eh I wasn’t even alive on 9/11 and people my age still make jokes about it, probably because every year in middle and high school we were forced to have a #neverforget presentation/assembly
I love how the most unanimously evil person in the world to every American was a gamer weeb with a laptop full of hentai
It's a pretty decent refutation of Great Man Theory. bin Laden was just a guy who had the right connections to get the attack plan rolling. The hijackers were just 19 random dudes, not commandos or spec ops. Their plan worked because it was a vector of attack that hadn't been seriously considered and no one was really trying to defend against.
Their plan worked because somebody with authority over NORAD rescheduled a bunch of training simulations of commercial plane terrorist hijackings for the morning of 9/11. That vector of attack was calculated and they had the perfect defense from it. Somebody on the inside sabotaged those defenses.
America didn't deserve 9/11. Here, i said it.
My reasoning:
It deserved much, much, MUCH worse for all the shit it did and keeps doing.
9/11 didn't really happen to america it happened to a bunch of random people. It was bad not even close to the worst thing that has ever happened and in no way justified killing a bunch of random iraqis
Were the people working in the building that could be described as the financial capital of the world really RANDOM?
Pretty sure there might be some severe statistical fuckery at play that makes this crowd significantly different than "random people"
it was an office block numerous companies rented space in it and had their workers do office work there. I don't think we should be saying office workers deserve to be murdered
I don't think they deserved it
But if I had to choose a building in the center of one of the world's top 10 largest cities, I'd probably also have picked the twin towers. Obviously it would be better for no planes to explode no buildings, but thats not the world we live in
they didn't have to attack a building in the center of one of the worlds top ten largest cities they could have not done that. It's not like that helped anyone
Yeah I said that, I think you're big misunderstanding me.
I meant if god snapped his fingers and I appeared in heaven holding a remote control then God said to me "fly that plane into a building in the middle of one of the top 10 cities in the world"
I'd beg him not to make me do it, and then aim for the world trade centers when he said I had to or he'd delete the universe
Weird, yes
you aren't the appropriateness police tho, we are literally in a thread about mocking 9/11 on !chapotraphouse@hexbear.net
I meant asside from the bad taste of the joke the analogy doesn't match the situation being described or discussion well
No, they have a valid point. If you had to pick a building that probably had a bunch of random evil stuff going on that would be it. They could have blown up Disneyland. That would have been a bigger propaganda hit. Instead they ment to strike at the heart of the worst people doing the worst things on earth. It was an okay pick.
I mean let's be honest a state is made up of its people
There's no attack on USA that also wouldn't affect it's people
The people are always hit much worse than the ruling class because they own almost everything
was the 9/11 attacks adventurism? Serious question. It would be if I did 9/11. but was it adventurism for Al Qaeda?
I would say it was adventurism it certainly wasn't part of an organised military campaign
was it not? It certainly wasn't a traditional military campaign, but it seems to me it was planned and carried out more in that fashion than, say, the UNIbomber
Checkmate liberal, the plan was to attack THREE symbolic locations in America.
'Twas a third measure.
but obvious.
