Specifically it was Michigan and Colorado and the study took place between June and August
Since April 2024, sporadic infections with highly pathogenic avian influenza (HPAI) A(H5) viruses have been detected among dairy farm workers in the United States. To date, infections have mostly been detected through worker monitoring, and have been mild despite the possibility of more severe illness. During June–August 2024, CDC collaborated with the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services and the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment to implement cross-sectional serologic surveys to ascertain the prevalence of recent infection with HPAI A(H5) virus among dairy workers. In both states, a convenience sample of persons who work in dairies was interviewed, and blood specimens were collected. Among 115 persons, eight (7%; 95% CI = 3.6%–13.1%) had serologic evidence of recent infection with A(H5) virus; all reported milking cows or cleaning the milking parlor. Among persons with serologic evidence of infection, four recalled being ill around the time cows were ill; symptoms began before or within a few days of A(H5) virus detections among cows. This finding supports the need to identify and implement strategies to prevent transmission among dairy cattle to reduce worker exposures and for education and outreach to dairy workers concerning prevention, symptoms, and where to seek medical care if the workers develop symptoms. Timely identification of infected herds can support rapid initiation of monitoring, testing, and treatment for human illness, including mild illness, among exposed dairy workers.
"You have no business telling me I should be vegan, it's my personal choice" doesn't hold up even if you reject animal personhood.
The whole argumentation line of "my personal choice" genuinely just falls through on every conceivable level and argument and anybody using it should basically be disregarded except for very rare edge cases
Funny thing is, they never seem to respect my personal choice to not eat meat.
Yep I’m still so confused about the people who take veganism and vegetarianism as a personal affront.
I think deep down they know it’s wrong so they lash out when confronted with their own cognitive dissonance.
I think deep down they know it’s wrong so they lash out when confronted with their own cognitive dissonance.
Am cyclist, can confirm
I think deep down they know it's wrong so they lash out
I think so, too. It always has similar vibes to racists being called out on their racism. Rather than fix the behavior, they double down. I always think of that guy who was like "Do you know how expensive slaves were?" when people were pointing out him waving around a Confederate flag was racist.
The anti-vegan carnists do similar shit with their all beef diets.
I think that also explains well why people are so hostile to everyone to the left of Hitler these days.
fuck I saw a really good term for this phenomenon on here recently but I can't think of it now. something envy? edit I think it was moral envy
Funny how quickly you discover the limits of utilitarianism from the "vote blue b/c trolley problem" crowd.
COVID really was the training pandemic and capitalist society failed.
What's posadism but replacing the nukes with plague?
Idk but the plague doctor look better make a comeback. Shit slaps
Keep feeding cows infected bird shit. Thanks Biden's lax ass regulations for not doing jack when it first emerged.
Colorado is so fucked. All of our big cattle operations are situated in extremely reactionary areas. Greeley, the main cattle town, tried to secede from the state over the COVID mask mandate. Raw milk is one of the right-wing obsessions and the dairies circumvent pasteurisation law by selling "shares" of a cow. You're technically just drinking from your own cow even if it's one of 200 eating chicken shit in an industrial dairy next to a dozen feed lots and poultry farms. There's no chance the state government will have an effective public health response if it's similar to their unenforced COVID lockdown, and we're a road/air nexus for the entire country.
Previously it was reported that cows were barely effected, which showed the virus wasn't as deadly to other species. So unless we were being lied to about outbreaks in other parts of the country, then it seems like the virus is adapting to become more deadly among cows.
But don't worry, if it gets worse in people the government won't do anything. No masks, no lockdowns. Just capitalism.
So unless we were being lied to about outbreaks in other parts of the country
Surely they wouldn't do such a thing?
...right?[defactor Reaction] in America the government lies about outbreaks of deadly diseases to make their leaders seem strong
what a great time to have bought a 12 pack of almond milk two weeks ago
So where are we at pandemic-wise? How long should I expect it to be before it's just undeniable and global?
When it's reliably transmitting between humans. Right now I'm fairly certain these cases are all bird to human which is bad but not sustainable for an epidemic
After Thanksgiving. Can't disrupt what is probably a really bad Black Friday and holiday travel season. The
need to keep giving the illusion that everything is not totally fucked.I meant more disease-infecting-millions-wise. As far as I understand it's far more deadly than covid
There’s no way to know for sure what kind of mutations would occur if the virus becomes human-to-human transmissible.
I’m sure some virologist could give an educated guess.
At this point isn't safe to assume it is human-human transmissible? Like we're not told about that, but there's so many infections across the country already, and there's stories of workers going home or not even being tested
Yeah I remember a few posts about the Missouri hospital case when it happened.
https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/spotlights/missouri-h5n1-serology-testing.html
You're right though, I don't trust they are being truthful either, which is kinda scary
It's the rapid increase in wastewater that scares me. Like it doesn't look like it's a one-time-thing from a few farms, but something that is steadily growing.
The article suggests it's not far more deadly than covid. It's only n=8 but you'd think the 1918 flu mortality rate would be evident even in those numbers.
If it's not catastrophic for adults it could certainly be circulating via human to human infection for a few months.
Good timing, I bet 47 is gonna handle this given all experience 45 got.
We're so back
