• happybadger [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I get that. For years I wouldn't eat Italian food because I didn't trust African cuisines.

  • budoguytenkaichi [he/him,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    Severely limiting the foods you can enjoy to own the non-whites.

    Also: Didn't know ketchup was Chinese, cool. Where's mustard from? I'm guessing the Middle East.

    • post_trains [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Tomato ketchup is entirely British. They couldn’t figure out how to reproduce a spiced Hokkien pickled fish brine sauce, so they somehow made mushroom and eventually tomato ketchup.

      • thefunkycomitatus [he/him,they/them]
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        4 years ago

        Even in the US colonies, it was mushroom ketchup. I don't think tomato ketchup became a thing until the 1800s.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29u_FejNuks

        • SteveHasBunker [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Oh geez I’ve spent way too much time watching the guys videos. I’m always like “why yes YouTube I do want to learn how to make a Mutton Gravy Pie!”

  • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    so no potatoes, rice, or tomatoes, most beans are off the table, he has a very limited spice selection, he also can't smoke...

    • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      Also corn, anything from cows or chickens, distilled alcohol, coffee, tea, any sort of pepper, bread...

          • lvysaur [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Cheese is MENA/maybe Indian
            Bread is also MENA

            turnips and wild fish only. And wisent I guess

          • kristina [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            cheese is just spoiled milk basically theres no way it wasnt independently discovered. some say earliest examples are in poland, china, really just all over the place

            • lvysaur [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              cows were only domesticated in the Mideast and India.

              Dairy is non-european.

                • lvysaur [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  goats and sheep were also domesticated in the mideast

                  but sure I guess we can pretend that some paleoeuropean milked a wooly rhino or something once

              • kristina [she/her]
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                4 years ago

                im gonna go out on a limb here, but given the degree to which lactose is tolerated in germanic regions, i'd say europe has had a hold of milk for 10k+ years. i know evidence shows that southwest asia had goats first, but the genetic evidence implies european ancestors were exposed to milk for quite some time, which implies some rudimentary form of cheese making as a byproduct

                aight im done nerding

                • lvysaur [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  but the genetic evidence implies european ancestors were exposed to milk for quite some time, which implies some rudimentary form of cheese making as a byproduct

                  It's exactly the opposite. Cheesemaking bypasses the lactose because lactose is water soluble. Even moreso if aged cheese.

                  Yamnaya (basically the "Aryans" that are worshipped so much) had a 0% frequency of the lactose tolerance gene, despite being buried with loads of cattle: https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-l1YmSXd7yQA/VhlDdgADsfI/AAAAAAAAAx0/081XEAvT0PQ/s1600/pigmentation%2BMathieson.jpg

                  Keep in mind that these Yamnaya Aryans were half Middle Eastern by DNA.

                  but given the degree to which lactose is tolerated in germanic regions

                  Also irrelevant, lactose is tolerated just as much or moreso in Gulf Arabs, Northwest India, and Sahelian Africa.

                  • kristina [she/her]
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                    4 years ago

                    neat. is it really? i thought the population in northern europe was 80-90%, whereas those areas were around 40-50%

                    • lvysaur [he/him]
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                      4 years ago

                      Nope. That's a combination of eurocentric sampling and white wewuzzery.

                      The high lactose tolerant areas are northwest/central Europe, northwest India/Pakistan, Arabia, Mauritania, Fulani areas, Tutsi areas, several Somali/Ethiopian areas.

                      The intermediate areas are Southern India, eastern Europe. Slavs in particular are around 50%, Greeks are majority intolerant (80%).

                      • kristina [she/her]
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                        4 years ago

                        is there a source for that? really curious about the numbers rn

                        • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                          4 years ago

                          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4700599/

                          https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/05/study-raises-questions-about-roots-lactose-tolerance-africa

                          https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/11/how-can-you-eat-dairy-if-you-lack-gene-digesting-it-fermented-milk-may-be-key-ancient

                          this shit is interesting.

                        • lvysaur [he/him]
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                          4 years ago

                          This is the map that was making the round in the 2000s. It's been proven completely wrong but people still post it. It's still up on wikipedia which is just more evidence the website is a eurocirclejerk: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/Worldwide_prevalence_of_lactose_intolerance_in_recent_populations.jpg

                          This is a more recent map, which is more accurate but still has problems. Note both the huge amount of samples in Europe, and the almost total exclusion of known Lactose Intolerant European areas (Balkans, Ukraine, Russia, etc): https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/Lactose_tolerance_in_the_Old_World.svg

                          It is also worth noting that the medical lactose tolerance test is done with a quarter gallon's worth of lactose. So if you're "lactose intolerant" you can still drink milk, just not a quarter gallon in one sitting. This is why Greeks and Koreans aren't exploding.

                          81% of Japanese are lactose TOLERANT when given a cup of milk: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1234085/

          • volkvulture [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            cheese was invented somewhere between Europe and the Middle East, though China does have limited cheese-making culture that dates back thousands of years it's not as old as what's been found in Europe and Egypt and elsewhere

            https://www.nature.com/articles/nature11698

  • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Apparently Ketchup tomatoes are often grown in Xinjiang.

      • Grimble [he/him,they/them]
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        4 years ago

        IF YOU ARE A FRUIT I AM PRACTICALLY BEGGING YOU TO REPOST THIS

        TOMATOES IN XINJIANG ARE BEING SKINNED AND COOKED ALIVE

        THEY ARE BEING CRUSHED TO DEATH AND MADE INTO A SAUCE THEN SOLD TO CHINESE NATIONALS

        THEY ARE BEING PICKED UP AND THROWN AGGRESSIVELY AT STAGE PERFORMERS THE CCP DISAPPROVES OF

        WHY IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT THIS

    • tofunaut [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketchup seems like the spices and etymology come from china but the introduction of tomatoes is western

      • VILenin [he/him]M
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        4 years ago

        番茄酱 is Chinese for tomato ketchup and 番 at the beginning indicates foreign origin so I would say yeah

    • cum_drinker69 [any]
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      4 years ago

      Well she's a white supremacist piece of shit just like him, she probably has some completely absurd infatuations of her own.

      • the_river_cass [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        my favorite story about her is that she got dumped by a muslim guy in high school and it's entirely possible her politics are just the resulting sexual pathology.

      • diode [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        She is probably way worse. Honestly she is most likely one of the worst white supremacists around. She actually did act on their shit by going to Mediterranean sea and try to sink the refugee boats.

          • diode [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Southern#Opposition_to_NGOs,_refugees,_and_migration

            I know there was a video of this as well and they were trying to roam the boat, but maybe I don't remember it well enough. She isn't just a dork talking about white replacement and other bullshit.

            Edit: Here is the video, I guess I remember it being worse than it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIkyQspRDlc

  • SSJBlueStalin [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Also, ketchup was originally english, they just didnt make it out of tomatos.

    He cant even be rascist right.

  • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    I mean I don't buy ketchup because its usually super sugary mass produced stuff that tastes nothing like any tomato paste or tomato sauce made with actual tomatoes, and it's really easy to make my own basil tomato paste with fresh tomatoes that I can use for anything. But if I'm out at a fast food place or restaurant I'll eat ketchup if it's on the food because I'm not a food obsessed infant. But avoiding a restaurant on a date because it has ketchup, which is from CHYNA? Wtf level of craziness is this lol, does this mean he can't even go to MacDonalds? Holy shit can't believe people like this exist.

    • abc [he/him, comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      I don’t buy ketchup because its usually super sugary mass produced stuff that tastes nothing like any tomato paste or tomato sauce made with actual tomatoes

      funnily enough, apparently the reason american tomato ketchup is so sugary is because Heinz sought a way to keep the ketchup from spoiling but prevent use of artificial preservatives - so he increased the vinegar/sugar amount lol.

  • hauntingspectre [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I read that article. She's actually not even that interesting a person - she holds shitty views, doesn't care, and never suffers any real consequences.

  • Circra [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Used to have a manager who refused to eat polos because they were Jew food. Nearest I could figure was that back in the 80's I think they stopped using pork gelatin and that somehow turned into a weird thing in his head. Really weird bloke, deeply racist to a just surreal level. Supported millwall because of course he fucking did.

    People like this are just fucking gone. I dunno how else to describe it really. It's like there's nothing working behind their eyes except weird, viscious reactions to stuff and a buch of torn up gears and belts, clattering about and tearing into each other.

    • skeletorlaugh [he/him,any]
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      4 years ago

      I work with a British guy like this and sometimes I think he might be legit insane. like there's no real structure to his thoughts, it blows my mind every time I argue with him.

    • lvysaur [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      when cows, pigs, and chickens were all domesticated in non-white areas but they're okay because reasons

      Europeans were 100% lactose intolerant until they were enriched by Middle Easterners lmao

  • Pallumpollum [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Libs who defend immigrant rights by saying "Racist people shouldn't get to eat tacos" BTFO

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    what's it like inside that guy's head? feel like that's covering up some deep insecurity

  • thefunkycomitatus [he/him,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    https://theoxley.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Winter-Dinner-Menu-2020-1.pdf

    First, it's impossible to avoid cultural crossover in food. We've been mixing our food since before Western Culture™ was a thing. Secondly, I'll have the Harissa Spiced Raw Kale for a starter. Roast Atlantic Salmon & Sesame Seeds w/ Asian Spiced Cabbage as my main. Stilton-Wild Cherry house ice cream for dessert please.