Tag yourself: I'm the private landlords sharing their assets with the solarpunk community
AI-driven education
Is burning down the planet for the sake of creating AI slop somehow "solarpunk" now? Did they ask ChatGPT to create this chart, or what?
Global fund: A for-profit foundation with goal of becoming the world's biggest pool of wealth
Green businesses: businesses focused on [blah blah blah] before profits
So are you chasing profits or not? Can't even be internally consistent in your own flowchart.
It's so silly when people want for-profit usage of capital, land and labour, but then also want capitalists to act against their interest, all without any sort of measures of enforcement.
Like, do these people think that the worst sum on this planet is just going to surrender their wealth out of their own good will?
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Hey, quick question. Where are "Green Businesses" getting those necessary goods?
I'm sorry, perhaps I stuttered. Let me try that again.
WHERE ARE THEY GETTING THEIR RESOURCES?!
Get back here and answer the question! Where is the part for funding the solar punk army to defend against bourgeois assault against anything that challenges their system?
Y'know I already thought 'solarpunks' were pie-in-the-sky aesthetes just based off their inability to plan even the first steps for their utopia-- but seeing this? Honestly I'm just starting to think it's a white cryptofash movement JUST from the "Non-solarpunk Citizens" bubble. Tell me this mfer never read a LICK of theory without telling me. The object is to reduce the amount of wretchedness of this earth; not increase it to bait more people into your aesthetic-driven ideology.
The OP is being pretty rightfully dunked on in his own post, with most people saying that it doesn't fit their orientation at all.
If solarpunk has any meaning beyond pretty verdant pictures, it would include "human-scale energy usage" as a core principle. If anything, the alienation from energy at point of acquisition is one of the biggest pieces of sorcery required to make capitalism function.
The OP is being pretty rightfully dunked on in his own post,
Small mercies there, but that still doesn't really change my view of solarpunk as more or less a bunch of aesthetes who can't even get distribution of surplus crop around their communities right
It doesn't even abolish landlords, what kind of weak ass shit is this. Read some fucking theory.
Put pressure on governments to minimize their power
Yeah I'm sure that will work
we go out and make a lot of noise together on wednesday afternoon and have the police cave our skulls in, repeat every week until we are all dead or in the super-panopticon
"Less taxes" right there in the middle is giving something away methinks. This just seems like a great way to lessen the power of government and empower landlords and corporations who will pretty promise to not be mean.
I like the for profit global fund.
Looking forward to this replacing effective altruism as the reinvention of indulgences in a few decades.
solarpunk lasted like a month before it got co-opted by the kind of people who watch kurzgesagt
Oh no, the neoliberal techbros stole solarpunk from the reactionary socialists!
I thought it was just people trying to make a positive cyberpunk, while missing the entire point of cyberpunk
I thought solarpunk was just like "let's do brutalism with more greenery", what the fuck is this shit
Solarpunk is a 100% vibes-based "ideology" where the aim is to get to a future that looks like this
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It has no other political goals.
I just want to say that I clicked over to that thread with an open mind. And then the second spot on the flowchart read "AI-driven education" and it slammed my mind shut.
edit: Okay I think the general idea here is to form landowning non profits that reinvest the money they generate into green communities, slowly taking over by expanding within the system as it already exists. That's not a new idea, that's the same old "form a commune in the Bay Area" idea that's been tried many times and always results in either a cult or your shared living arrangement being bombed by the cops (or both!).
"solarpunk is cryptofash" i scrawl on the blackboard for the 999th time. once more, with feeling!
I don't want to be too mean to solarpunk people because a lot of them are at least kind of in the right direction, but going into canva and making a solarpunk flow chart might be the larpiest thing I've ever seen, what a new idea, no one has ever though of doing mutual aid and community gardens before
I don't want to be too mean to solarpunk people because a lot of them are at least kind of in the right direction
The vibes are arguably in the right direction but many of the actual components of the aesthetic are vapid and reactionary.
https://missolivialouise.tumblr.com/post/94374063675/heres-a-thing-ive-had-around-in-my-head-for-a
https://www.re-des.org/es/a-solarpunk-manifesto/
Thankfully it's an aesthetic rather than a real ideology, so I don't expect political re-education to be especially difficult.
Thankfully it's an aesthetic rather than a real ideology,
No need to be mean to them but definitely do not respect them in any way
