https://xcancel.com/PeterHotez/status/1873162034201960946

    • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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      3 days ago

      I think he is sincere

      Acknowledges COVID, explicitly states they've been prepping for decades; he really does think it'll be different lmao

      • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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        3 days ago

        To be fair, he's right about covid vs. flu. SARS first showed up 2002 with covid popping up in 2019 (maybe 2018), so we only had around a decade and a half of research on prepping for covid.

        20 years compared to 17 years is obviously a ginormous amount of time that totally wasn't why there was research being done on a covid vaccine by the time the pandemic hit. Definitely didn't have any pre-existing knowledge of a SARS variant because you need three years to properly prepare (and by "properly prepare" I mean "do nothing at all because the US doesn't take people's health seriously and Democrats are going to make it a talking point during Trump's admin, rather than potentially making Biden look bad.").

  • BodyBySisyphus [he/him]
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    3 days ago

    "Surely no one would be stupid enough to turn off the electric fence and let all the dinosaurs out"

  • iByteABit [comrade/them]
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    3 days ago

    Afaik even the science argument is not that valid because the science had caught up with covid-19 pretty early on and the vaccine was theoretically ready way sooner than it was production ready. The whole problem with the pandemic was capitalism and terrible western education.

    • SoyViking [he/him]
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      3 days ago

      If every developed nation had reacted like China did, millions of lives could have been spared.

      COVID really ramped up the Victims Of Capitalism body count.

      • huf [he/him]
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        3 days ago

        our states are uwu smol beans that can only violently repress labour movements, they have no capability to enforce covid policy.

        actually, i'm not even sarcastic, neoliberalism has hollowed the state out to such a degree that they're incapable.

      • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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        3 days ago

        It was really cool the way the western press used the Chinese response to push "evil authoritarian gommunism" narratives.

        In no way did that contribute to blowback when their governments tried a much more tepid response later on. Not a chance.

    • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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      3 days ago

      Honestly it pissed me off the way the vaccine was dealt with, and I say this as a biologist and medical researcher.

      If we had a scientifically educated population, we could’ve started mass vaccinations months before we had solid data on if they worked. With the mRNA vaccines, we were like >95% sure they’d work from like day 1, and there was no point at which the potential risks of the vaccine ever outweighed the potential risks of getting Covid. Even with no trials on the vaccine, it was a no brainer to take it instead of risking Covid.

      Obviously you still run trials, make sure it does in fact work, but we could’ve had most people already vaccinated by the time we knew for sure.

      Also obviously vaccines should be mandatory, the easier way to do that is to block necessary services behind a check, but I would even support fully “We will hold you in this chair and put a needle in your arm” if that’s what it came to.

      • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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        3 days ago

        "We will hold you in this chair and put a needle in your arm"

        I'm so over giving anti-vaxxers a choice. If you don't want to take the shot, your ass gets deported to a quarantine zone, your kids will be taken away from you and vaxxed, and you aren't coming out until you either accept the shot or the disease is eradicated completely everywhere else in the world. The right-wing conspiracy theories of FEMA camps will become a reality and they'd find out what authoritarianism really means.

        This is probably why I'm not in charge of anything.

  • kittin [he/him]
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    3 days ago

    Only 3 things can negate this:

    policy failures

    pandemic denialism

    antiscience disinformation

    Lmao

    • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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      3 days ago

      If I can't tell you that DNA -> RNA -> protein then I can't tell you that viruses are crazy cause sometimes they go backwards from RNA to DNA and sometimes they just say fuck DNA.

      Then if I tell you the vaccine just needs RNA then you freak out. Like yeah I'd RATHER have an attenuated virus vaccine but I can't just pull that out of my ass, a lots involved in that. Or if I told you how much RNA you go through in a minute you would have no sense of scale.

      It's like FUCK man! You want to argue about vaccines when I have 3 LOSING LANES!! What do you not understand about this?!

    • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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      3 days ago

      Looking at his twitter: He appears on FoxNews and CNN, is a huge proponent of vaxxing, and is very against anti-vaxxers. He has an autistic daughter and has written a book about how vaccines DID NOT cause her autism. But, he only occasionally mentions masking on his twitter, such as in a crowded place or when traveling. So he sounds like he's a well meaning lib, who is about to be very disappointed.

  • FumpyAer [any, comrade/them]
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    3 days ago

    Yeah we didn't have a vaccine because of decades of research! We just winged it. Bird flu will be totally different, guys, I swear!