wrong. If you want to rant against Beyond meat, then Rant against its price, that should be way way lower then real meat...
I mean, I think it's going to take a few years for then to fine-tune the formula and scale it up to mass production, so it's not worth filing a complaint about quite yet I don't think.
you can buy 20lb of impossible burgers for $70 which is pretty good no? better than beyond meat
you can buy 20lb of impossible burgers for $70
On their website one 5lb brick is $64.99 so i don't know where you're getting that price
Also, for comparison, 5lb of murder burger is ~$15 at walmart
https://buy.impossiblefoods.com/products/impossible-burger-grilling-pack
ooh i thought it said 2 x 10.25 lb packages not 2 x 10 quarter pounders that makes more sense lmao
Yeah right friendo. That shit has my boomer-ass dad voluntarily eating vegetarian.
By any means necessary.
This shit is to Veganism what Dengism is to Socialism (discuss)
I don't think the animals or environment care if it's bougie. Less cattle farming is less cattle farming
And higher standards of living are higher standards of living right? Maybe the comparison is totally off base, just seemed like there was some similarities.
Also I meant that in a "it's good because it serves as a transition between systems" way, not a "we must have purity way"
I mean according to half the people her Dengism is working, sooooooo...
Well, in the sense that China is basically the only country to expand it's economy during covid and has successfully eradicated poverty for hundreds of millions I'd say yes. Now if Impossible burgers can do the same for the conditions of the worlds livestock (while also making a controversial profit for the company owners) would it not be somewhat comparable?
Kinda different scales here.
If it helps a lot of people go veg or vegan (or even just significantly reduce meat consumption) then I’d say it’s had a proportional effect to Dengism.
I don’t really care much about Deng or impossible meat though, so...
It was a particularly hot take on my part lol, guess I just saw that both require the same types of critical support and my drunk ass was like "HEY THE ECONOMY OF CHINA IS LIKE FAKE MEAT!"
so? technology is solving a real problem: people dont want to eat only veggies, so a meat substitute that is just veggies is a good way to fool that part of the brain. this is a fundamentally good thing.
its wild that people are acting like its bad to feel superior or some shit
Not sure I agree. Variety is always appreciated in vegan options, and it's a great way for many to realize going vegan is even possible.
Obviously fuck the corporations like the ones that operate Beyond/Impossible. But I don't think it's a bad idea on its own.
Especially when so many peoples main sticking point when it comes to even going vegetarian is "But I like X meat product too much", having direct alternatives is a good encouragement for them.
It would be cool if restaurants weren't replacing their existing veggie options for a single fake meat item
Impossible can suck my chode. They operate out of my town and use leftist imagery while brutally crushing organizing efforts in their own shop. They put hundreds at risk during covid and laid off people who were trying to blow the whistle about their unsafe workplace.
Edit: Wait, fuck. The one I'm thinking if is No Evil. I'm not sure about Impossible
Not really once you realize that they chose that name because of Google. They call all their stuff shit like "El Sandinista" and "Comrade Cluck".
They're the epitome of "sell the revolution". They rightly realized that the overlap between leftism and veganism was huge and decided to appropriate leftism as a means to sell stolen surplus value.
oh yeah i remember that. iirc some of the zapatistas actually made a statement on it?
They did, so the company just changed it to El Capitan once they realized that using actual socialists as tools in their garbage marketing could backfire when they fucked over their employees.
I disagree. I eat Indian lentil/bean dishes every day but the Beyond meat products are still pretty tasty
Also there's no way you're going to get all of the US eating daal and rajma instead of insane amounts of meat
I used to feel strange about Beyond/Impossible meatlike products, but then I was reading a medieval cookbook and I learned that disguising your vegetables to look and taste like meat is a human practice going back centuries. It just kinda died out (edit: in western countries) with the rise of the modern meat industry and was rediscovered in a new context with the rise of veganism.
the buddhists made an art form out of that shit and continue to do it because its cheap as hell to produce.
but then I was reading a medieval cookbook and I learned that disguising your vegetables to look and taste like meat is a human practice going back centuri
never went away in probably most non-western cultures. dishes like chai pow yu being an ancient mock meat that is still widely eaten today
you can argue its bourgeois but meat consumption is very ingrained in american society
India isn't too bad with meat consumption. 30% of people there dont eat meat
Definitely a model for animal consumption by comparison I guess.
I mean, I can't really stomach black bean or veggie burgers, tbh. "Beyond meat" is a lot easier for me to enjoy. Fuck yeah it's overpriced, but I'm glad it exists in the first place
its really interesting too. if you eat a typical burger before youll think it tastes nothing like it. but if you just eat the veggie burger it tastes just fine. wild shit.
also i feel like it makes me more full so thats why i like buying them because its like a stone to the stomach, its hard to get that if you need to eat quick and go with other veggie options. at one point they cost the same as a typical burger too.
All true, but you just know that if a socialist country mass marketed an affordable, tasty, and healthy meat substitute the western media would screech about "COMMUNISM NO FOOD" forever.
I'm sure it's great. But it's definitely not $13/lb great. I live in the midwest. I can get 40 lbs of grass fed, no drug beef for $350 ($8.75/lb) and that's a 1/8 cow, so besides ground beef it would also have steaks and shit. I love the idea of impossible burgers, but there's no way it should cost as much as a damn filet mignon.
eta: I'm trying to feed a family of 5 with 3 teenagers. I need 2 lbs of ground meat just to make enough food to go around if I do chili/spaghetti stuff.
anybody read walkaway? bio-3d printers for drugs and food are gonna be cool
cultured meats in the future have a high likelihood of being the best way to produce calories on a land use and environmental impact basis. heres hoping capitalism wont charge out the ass for it.
What's walkaway? I googled it and only found some sort of right-wing campaign.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walkaway_(Doctorow_novel)
cant recommend it enough it's about post-scarcity transhumaist-anarchists dealing with climate collapse capitalism, also explores trans humanist themes like mind uploading, AI rights etc
Yeah but you see the problem is beans and lentil taste like fucking cardboard so critical support to our beyond meat capitalist grifter friends
Vegetarian food just takes a bit more effort. If you add the right spices and stuff beans and lentils are awesome.
