China side of the coin is that they are dealing with radical islamists, and attempting to dissuade their radicalism with re-education and getting them to a point where they can contribute to the Chinese society
So best case scenario, the kind of shit Canada and Australia pulled with their natives. Cool cool cool.
I don't want to claim I know what's going on, but the language of what I quoted sounds like just the kind of imperial "we know what's good for them" bullshit every country in the world pulls when they're dealing with a politically inconvenient minority population. We'll put the savages in special schools so they will mend their barbarian ways.
In an ideal world, what do you suggest we do with religious extremists who wish to harm innocent people? Just kill them, I guess? Because education and re-integration sounds too much like "putting the savages in special schools so they will mend their barbarian ways?"
Again, I don't live there and am critically ignorant on Chinese internal politics. I can be pretty sure that they aren't eating Uyghuir babies, but at the same time, I'm also kind of enclined to take claims that boil down to "this entire population group is made up of terrorists" as convenient scapegoating. If their own language describing the situation cannot be distinguished from that of, say, India about muslems in Kashmir, should I give them the benefit of the doubt because they have "socialist" in their country name?
They're operating under the assumption that the "Millions of Uyghurs in camps" claim is correct and not a complete and utter lie. There are a couple dozen facilities about the size of a medium prison or large elementary school. If they're filled like schools, that's 15,000 people at most. If they're filled like American prisons, 50,000.
From the BBC's tour of one, I'd say it's the former. They don't seem packed in like sardines. Meanwhile we have 2.6 million people locked up. Most of them for non-violent offenses or completely made up charges. All being used for slave labor and with a complete disenfranchisement and minimal educational opportunity.
So best case scenario, the kind of shit Canada and Australia pulled with their natives. Cool cool cool.
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I don't want to claim I know what's going on, but the language of what I quoted sounds like just the kind of imperial "we know what's good for them" bullshit every country in the world pulls when they're dealing with a politically inconvenient minority population. We'll put the savages in special schools so they will mend their barbarian ways.
In an ideal world, what do you suggest we do with religious extremists who wish to harm innocent people? Just kill them, I guess? Because education and re-integration sounds too much like "putting the savages in special schools so they will mend their barbarian ways?"
Again, I don't live there and am critically ignorant on Chinese internal politics. I can be pretty sure that they aren't eating Uyghuir babies, but at the same time, I'm also kind of enclined to take claims that boil down to "this entire population group is made up of terrorists" as convenient scapegoating. If their own language describing the situation cannot be distinguished from that of, say, India about muslems in Kashmir, should I give them the benefit of the doubt because they have "socialist" in their country name?
Who said that? Anyone? Ever?
No. No one ever said that of Uighurs in China. Not on this site, not on Reddit, not in China. No human person alive has ever said that.
They're operating under the assumption that the "Millions of Uyghurs in camps" claim is correct and not a complete and utter lie. There are a couple dozen facilities about the size of a medium prison or large elementary school. If they're filled like schools, that's 15,000 people at most. If they're filled like American prisons, 50,000.
From the BBC's tour of one, I'd say it's the former. They don't seem packed in like sardines. Meanwhile we have 2.6 million people locked up. Most of them for non-violent offenses or completely made up charges. All being used for slave labor and with a complete disenfranchisement and minimal educational opportunity.
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