Wonks, plz help me out. Is this abnormal, or is it just that the dems are feckless losers (and don’t want to block all the ghoulish shit the republicans did when they held the majority)?
After months of fighting over the checks we end up with $600 that could have started going out next week. Last minute Trump throws a hissy and we get the possibility of $2000 checks but with both parties kinda looking at each other dumbly because neither really wanted that. They tried to cast blame and opportunity for either side to shoot it down. Pelosi called a unanimous consent vote which means even one nay could end it. That way she could bait Republicans to saying no and then get two wins. Not getting the checks she doesn't want, and then blaming Republicans for not getting the checks. Republicans obviously don't care how ghoulish they appear. They know the little piggies will love it anyway. So they can claim Dems were just holding up the $600 by throwing out unrealistic last minute additions. Neither party wanted to stay over Christmas and Bernie was threatening to hold the Senate over the holiday. Now there's no point because the House has to come back Monday with a new rewrite that includes a clean $2000. The can is kicked a little further down the road. The checks aren't going to be out for at least another two weeks. Congress gets to go home.
What a fucking shit show.
Sanders rolled over hard on his 1200$ that. Can't believe we thought this guy was a leader
No he didn't. He's been fighting and arguing for 1200 for weeks, but there's only so much one senator can do.
Yeah fr. He lost, and all of us who put any work into getting him into the presidency lost that chance with him. Maybe he's doing the best he can, maybe he isn't, but we're the ones who have to move on.
I feel like there are a lot of folks who don’t know the difference between giving up and losing. Bernie didn’t give up on stimulus checks, he lost. The $600 check bill passed like 91-6. The most Bernie could have done against it would be minor delay tactics.
He lost and backed off his threats to hold senate hostage.
All the guy does is lose lately.
Yes, and that says a lot more about the united lib-chud front fighting the left than it does about Bernie?
he didnt singlehandedly annihilate global capitalism with his frail 80 year old body, he BETRAYED US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He said he'd shut down the the most recent bill if they didn't give $1200 in it. They gave out $600 and he didn't filibuster it. Whether you agree with him or not, he didn't do the thing he said he'd do which was in his power.
He said he was going to keep them through Christmas and didn't do it. Stop worshipng this loser.
When Trump suggested the 2k checks it was a cynical stalling attempt
He doesn't do republican team politics. It was a petty drama bitch move against McConnell. He's wanted to sign his name on checks this whole time.
Of course, but have they always just been able to say “no we don’t approve of this coming to a floor vote” and just haven’t!?
I think she’s actually going ahead with a roll-call vote on Monday. She couldn’t do it today because I think the house has to be in a regular session rather than a special session or some weird wonky shit. But there Will be a roll call vote Monday.
https://twitter.com/speakerpelosi/status/1342126003892715522?s=21
Eh, I think Democrats will just vote yes on this. They know it's dead in the Senate anyway.
they didn't block the entire policy they just blocked it happening via unanimous consent, delaying the process
Nancy deliberately set this up as a unanimous consent vote knowing full well that it would never get passed that way so she can blame the Republicans for her shortcomings
Republicans are already claiming it didn't pass because the Democrats blocked it.
These stupid games never work.
I went on r/conservative and they’re pissed at Republicans for blocking it and calling them “controlled opposition”
The house isn't in session just now so basically this bill needed unanimous consent. Meaning any individual could black it. When the house is in session they can vote normally
The Democrats could still pass it, the GOP just blocked an attempt to fast-track it.
It’s dead in the Senate regardless.
EDIT: Democrats will pass it on the 28th, the next day Congress is in session. Today’s stuff was just a stall tactic.
wait didn't they pass the emergency funding bill already though? does it run out before they'll be back in session?
It doesn’t run out before they’re back in session but if Trump doesn’t sign the bill they have absolutely no plan to prevent a shutdown.
Congress has a few different ways of approving legislation, one of which is just asking if legislation can be approved by "unanimous consent"
where they just call for the yeas and nays and then typically say the yeas have it.To approve a call for unanimous consent the house minority and majority leadership have to approve the vote. The house minority leader (Kevin McCarthy R-CA) was not present because it was a pro forma session which means "for the form" or "for the formality" (typically they don't actually do anything during these sessions). Of course late yesterday evening McCarthy said he wanted to change some of the foreign aid spending in the omnibus bill so it's possible Pelosi sundowned before he said that and when they reconvened this morning she was like "where's Kevin?"This was the strategy all along though. Approve minuscule amount of relief, receive massive backlash, Trump gets to look good calling for more relief, Republicans get to block all relief, and hold the government hostage into the start of Biden's term with stopgap spending.
Edit: My bad that's a voice vote, there is no vote by unanimous consent. They just ask if there is any objection.
The conservative Australian government gave out like $40,000 for workers who couldn't work and $25,000 extra for welfare recipients, as well as getting in an additional 5,000 staff into welfare administration to handle the surge in demand.
How often are they trying to pass stuff my unanimous consent where one person can block it?
EDIT: Thinking about it more, this seems like meaningless bullshit the Dems did on purpose knowing that, because of the way they did it, it only took one person to block it. Mind the kayfabe, folks.
Very true. I just think the optics of sending money to Israel and Myanmar for genocide purposes is not the hill to die on, but I’m not a brain genius like Nancy.
Healthcare pls. No racist genocide. Thx
I guess I read it as McCarthy needed to approve in order for their to be a unanimous consent vote, so it didn’t even receive the voice vote
I think its that everyone present has to agree and anyone can block it. I'm thinking the Dems did it this way in purpose so they could look good.
I think Democrats are going to do a real floor vote on it on Monday.
We need to end the war on christmas. There is a Marxist war on christmas. Radical socialists want to deprive you of your most sacred shopping trip of the year by giving you money that we do not want to give you. You cannot afford food and are about to be homeless and now there's no money for gifts, but here's some christmas in the wealthiest nation on earth.
God damn America.
