American "proletariat" can't even conceive of the possibility of making anything, they can only buy things on the market. Why? Maybe because they're labor aristocrat imperialists who work in graphic design and have never made anything in their lives

The people of the provinces of Punjab and Sindh view the bearing and use of arms as a constitutional right whereas the people of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Baluchistan view it as part of their culture.

gun nerds vs gun dorks

Other enduring customs and a strong culture of honor also promote the prevalence and importance of guns. In Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, where the Pashtun residents laud performances of strength and toughness, carrying an AK-47 or other gun is a sign of honour and respect. Aerial firing is fairly common on special occasions such as weddings and festivals, despite being illegal. As such, the broader Pakistani social necessity of portable and displayable wealth takes on an intimidating form among male members of provincial society.

sounds reactionary and bourgeois

    • Washburn [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      Lemme just put on my hard hat and graphic design this structural steel into place

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        National DSA sphere isn't that PMC or brooklynite either tbh. Of the 19 person national political committee only 3 are from the NYC metro area and (not posting this for privacy but most of these peoples jobs are public info) most of the members do not have PMC type jobs. DSA staff meanwhile are subservient to all chapter elected leadership.

        Also the OP is focusing way to much and fetishizing one particular type of labor.

  • spinachupper [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    American “proletariat” can’t even conceive of the possibility of making anything, they can only buy things on the market. Why? Maybe because they’re labor aristocrat imperialists who work in graphic design and have never made anything in their lives

    Conservative Facebook meme page posturing, but woke

    • ziper1221 [none/use name,comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      know that suddenly buying a lot of metal working tools and a lot of the prefabbed parts of well known guns will get you a visit from the ATF

      wat?

        • Harukiller14 [they/them,comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          It's literally not illegal to manufacture firearms as long as you're not selling them. You could technically make them and give them away if you wanted.

          • DefinitelyNotAPhone [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            It's not illegal, but it'll definitely get you on an ATF watchlist to make sure you don't start selling them. The ATF doesn't fuck around.

            • Harukiller14 [they/them,comrade/them]
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              That is true, but it's also a lot harder to enforce than you would think. The only part the ATF officially cares about is the receiver. This is the part of the gun you actually have to fill out a background check for. Doesn't matter if there's no trigger or barrel or anything, if it's a receiver (and in the ar15s case the lower receiver specifically) then you're filling out a background check.

              Could the ATF be tracking if you have other weapon parts? Maybe, but we don't know that. They would have to be able to see every single purchase relating to firearms and keep a record of it for ever single person, which is a lot of work. Even more work than keeping a record of every legal gun sold, which they fuck up all the time. Every spring, every detent, every roll pin. A lot of those parts also go into things that aren't guns at all, so they would also need to prove that's what they're being used for. None of those parts have serial numbers or anything. In fact pretty much nothing has a serial number other than the receiver. Nothing to tie it to you other than your order number from wherever you got it. They would also need to keep a record of who is buying aluminum and how much since that's what 99% of AR receivers are made of. Then they would have to prove thats what the aluminum is being used for. I'm not saying don't be cautious, but it's not as simple as one would think.

            • krammaskin [none/use name]
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              4 years ago

              If you are not on any of the government's lists then you are not a real leftist. :)

              If you are seriously anti war, you'd be on a list. If you support our comrades in Rojava, you'd be on a list. If you are organising for our black comrades, you'd be on a list and so on.

            • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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              https://www.80percentarms.com/80-lowers/

              An 80% Lower Receiver, sometimes called “80 lowers” or “a paperweight”, are AR-15, .308, or AR-9 lower receivers that are 80% finished in the machining process. There’s still a small amount of finishing to be done to make these products a legal firearm. This is important because the ATF does NOT recognize an 80% complete lower as a firearm, and therefore is not subject to the same regulations as any other complete firearm.

              There's a whole industry around individuals building and modifying guns for personal use. Plenty of people don't just essentially build from a kit, either; they go through the red tape necessary to do more involved gunsmithing.

              OP's link is interesting, but everything about "oh Americans would never do this" is pretty far off base.

            • Harukiller14 [they/them,comrade/them]
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              4 years ago

              I've built a few guns so believe me I've looked at every gun law that could apply to me already lol I didn't want some ATF agent to come kill me or something.

          • kragmoor [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            buying a bunch of guns with your weirdo friends isn't illegal either, didn't stop the atf from rolling tanks through the walls in waco

            • Harukiller14 [they/them,comrade/them]
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              4 years ago

              That's fair, but I'm also guessing they were buying in larger quantities than the average gun enthusiast. Not that that makes Waco okay obviously, but still.

              I'm also not super knowledgeable on what happened in Waco, but today is a whole different ballgame than the 90's in terms of manufacturing. I'll leave it at that.

      • StolenStalin [comrade/them,they/them]
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        4 years ago

        Most people I see shit talking 3d printed guns aren't invovled in the space (or are feds trying to discourage people from looking into it)

  • SteveHasBunker [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    American “proletariat” can’t even conceive of the possibility of making anything, they can only buy things on the market. Why? Maybe because they’re labor aristocrat imperialists who work in graphic design and have never made anything in their lives

    Uh I’m pretty sure most firearms manufacturers are US based.

  • captcha [any]
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    4 years ago

    American “proletariat” can’t even conceive of the possibility of making anything, they can only buy things on the market. Why? Maybe because they’re labor aristocrat imperialists who work in graphic design and have never made anything in their lives.

    Some Americans will get together and mill a bunch of browning hi-powers out of a block of steel. They had a name for it buts its a big party thing some people do. Also Americans will mill their own AR-15 parts all the time. Both the patents for the browning hi-power and AR-15 are expired so its legal to an extant.

    Maker-space shit is very alive and well in america and fairly high-tech. Drones being both popular in maker-spaces and modern warfare is an ominous point. Problem is these maker spaces are fairly libertarian. They're more left than your average american libertarian since they're usually cooperatives but still libertarian.

    • Des [she/her, they/them]
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      4 years ago

      i have a couple near me that i was interested in checking out right before covid hit. one looks libertarian but one is more artsy/left. the libertarian one was super clean, organized, expensive, etc while the lefty one looked like a place you could hang out and chill too and emphasized the people there over the hardware.