I submit The Post (2017), which is all about a fabulously wealthy, heroic girlboss newspaper executive taking on a crooked president threatening our democracy (take THAT drumpf)

  • leftofthat [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Aladdin is super liberal. Imagine living through systemic oppression your whole life, discovering a genie who can grant any wish, and then using that power solely to nail some princess and perpetuate the status quo and become the sultan.

  • wombat [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    And then there Anastasia (1997), where the message is literally “communism is bad because it got in the way of the Romanovs having fancy parties and wearing expensive clothes”

    • neebay [any,undecided]
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      4 years ago

      and the revolution happened because Rasputin put a curse on the Romanovs

      material conditions and even ideology had nothing to do with it, communism is a wizard's spell

      what the fuck Bluth

      • VILenin [he/him]
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        Also the Russian people secretly loved the Tsar, just ignore all that trivial unrest and revolution (basically irrelevant and had nothing to do with him) haha

      • emizeko [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        you see, they called him Bloody Nicky because things were just fine under his leadership

    • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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      4 years ago

      I love how the two top upbeared suggestions are animated movies I absolutely love, especially this one, lol.

  • Tittyskittles [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    WW84 is peak liberalism. Gal Gadot is the liberal female Uber mensch. She’s Israeli(so POC without being too dark ), is an archeologist at a prestigious museum(total girl boss in a totally relatable job), and most importantly delivers a message of “don’t wish for better things because something worse might happen” . That last part is going to be the reoccurring theme in all mainstream culture for the next four years.

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      4 years ago

      She’s Israeli(so POC

      I don't fucking understand how Americans come up with these categories. Apparently POC contains everyone who isn't a bleach white WASP with a red face? I really can't figure it out, I have no idea how Jewish people are POC and I can never figure out if someone is jewish just by looking at them. Then again we're talking about the same people that used to think Italians aren't white and still think latino is a race. It's so confusing.

      EDIT: I also recently found out that Varoufakis was spokesperson for the Black Students Union of LSE which is fucking hilarious and shows that it's not just Americans who have incredible race brainworms.

      • MarxistHedonism [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        I’m Jewish and I’ve never heard of us being called POC. Like we’re a minority but it’s separate from race.

        I do know there are some people who put their race as Other on forms, but I’ve always put white.

        • Pezevenk [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Yeah idk these terms have become so weird and confused and all the debates about them make my little brain hurt :(

          • read_freire [they/them]
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            4 years ago

            Apparently POC contains everyone who isn’t a bleach white WASP with a red face?

            depends

            if there were no other visibly different people, white supremacist saxons would see angles as inherently inferior, or something like that

            today on turtle island being ambiguously beige is enough to qualify, but those folks can pass as white too (including wonder woman)

            which makes her the perfect lib idpol poc superhero

      • SteamedHamberder [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        There are different definitions of Judaism, none of which is “racial.” I would categorize them as:

        1. Self- identity
        2. Observing Jewish practices, and
        3. Familial

        Jewish populations end up containing an admixture of local and middle eastern genetics, depending on location.

      • Wogre [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        It's because she and isrealis in general are olive skinned, and depending on who you ask that's not white. I'm a pasty-white jew and you can easily tell the difference between me and the israelis I know.

    • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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      gagh that movie sucked

      imagine having a plot that gets started by an oil man not having oil but placing it in 84, it's not like that's a real life thing that happened a decade before that or anything

    • blobjim [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      The other black super hero in the Marvel comics/movies is literally named War Machine :agony:

        • blobjim [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          True I guess Blade did get movies and Luke Cage apparently has a TV series. Nick Fury is also the head of the Avengers or whatever. Miles Morales, etc.

          • MarxistHedonism [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            Luke Cage in the TV show is a major lib who chastises black people for saying the n-word and dates a cop.

            I don’t know if he was better in the comics.

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    Trial of the Chicago 7 has to be up there as an all timer. It uses a historical incident that is a clear indictment of the system and was intentionally used by the defendants to make a mokery of that system, and Sorkin turned that into a film about how great American institutions are. The troop worshipping ending is almost too incredible to believe until you see it yourself.

    As a point of comparison 12 Angry Men is also an extremely lib take on the justice system. In this case it's how a single strong willed individual can, through their own moral convictions, uphold truth and justice within the just institution of the American trial. This film however isn't so hamfisted in its ideology and is actually extremely well crafted for what it is.

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      Definitely not the vibe I got from Trial of the Chicago 7. It seemed to repeatedly shit on American institutions as oppressive (portraying the courts as racist and the charges as an attempt to stifle political opposition, not to mention calling cops bloodthirsty pigs). The end didn't seem like troop worship at all, seemed much more like "this is how many Americans are fucking dying while you prosecute those trying to save them". Would've been way cooler if they read a list of Vietnamese casualties as well though.

      Maybe I would've interpreted the film differently if I didn't already view American institutions as oppressive.

      • D61 [any]
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        4 years ago

        Would’ve been way cooler if they read a list of Vietnamese casualties as well though.

        Which is what actually happened in the court room that day, for what it's worth.

      • communiste [she/her,comrade/them]
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        repeatedly shit on American institutions as oppressive

        It did give that impression sometimes, but it also had a character sum up his key argument by saying, "I think the institutions of our democracy are wonderful things that right now are populated by some terrible people." This undercuts any message that American institutions themselves are oppressive and instead suggests that simply putting good people in charge would be enough to stop institutional abuses. It's a fundamentally reformist thesis that belies not only the film's radical veneer, but the actual politics of the real-life radicals into whose mouths Sorkin is putting his own lib-ass words.

      • Phillipkdink [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Libs love polite criticism of their system though, as long as there is no positive case to replace it with anything.

        That movie is lib as fuck.

      • pigpoopballs69 [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I got the same vibe from the movie but my lib parents praised it for "not being too political" so I think like you said you have to already see the oppression of American courts to see it as a harsh critique of the system

      • gramsciezethemeans [he/him,they/them]
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        4 years ago

        I'd recommend watching the first film of the Small Axe series that came out on Amazon recently, Mangrove. It's a great point of comparison between two very different approaches to filming trials centered around injustice. For me it's the perfect antidote to what Sorkin did with Chicago 7.

  • dakanektr [he/him, he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Hamilton, there are not enough flammable american flags on earth to recoup that brain poisoning

        • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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          4 years ago

          that's fair, I'm just a hog for steve carrell doing "serious" because I don't think he's nearly as good as hollywood pretends he is

    • Rodentsteak [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      He literally cast the Danish Steven Segal (So a somehow more bargain basement version) as "Scary Iranian dude" in Rosewater. I don't even know how the fuck he got away with it. Seriously it's like casting current day Chuck Norris as Crazy Horse.

  • Spike [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    The Blind Side, Spotlight, Crash, La La Land, Hacksaw Ridge, Green Book, Argo, Avatar, Juno, The Help, Saving Private Ryan

    Probably says more about me that I've watched all of these....

  • pooh [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Crash.

    I felt like every character was basically reduced to some neat category in the framework of liberal identity politics, and this is true even when they supposedly break out of their predetermined role. I feel like this is pretty much how white liberals (especially those in the media) see the US. Not as unique human beings with their own material interests and overlapping struggles, but as fitting into certain clearly defined social categories to be marketed to, or co-opted for political gain.

    • Creakybulks [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Crash is by far the movie that I hate the most. It's so fucking juvenile and insulting.

      • StalinistApologist [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I hated it on the theater. I kept thinking the movie was so racist, but apparently that's the point? I think it achieved the goal of being racist but not of being art or good.

  • RowPin [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Academy_Award-winning_films

    Last 20 years, will make an exemption for Parasite and 12 Years A Slave (which hit the sweet spot of "great film but also appealing to guilty white liberals").