F tier - cops, military officers, coast guard, Immigration and custom inspectors
F+ tier - DAs, military, TSA officers
D tier - doctors
D+ tier - psychologists
C tier - nurses
B tier - teachers, private defense attorneys, tax collectors
A tier - social workers, janitors, government agency workers (DMV workers, office jobs, etc), public defenders, pro-bono defense attorneys
S tier - postal workers, firefighters, sanitation workers, veterinarians, anesthesiologists, park employees, forest rangers
Rest in Power p.a.t.c.o, martyrs in the fight for labor rights
EDIT: I'd like to add that this is mostly US-centric. In other countries, doctors probably range from B tier to S tier. As for defense attorneys, I honestly don't know enough about their demographics to determine how many of them are Alan Dershowitz and how many are actual public servants.
yeah how you gonna mention PATCO in the post and not shout out the bus/train driver?
Doctors generally heavily oppose any action to reduce their income, like healthcare nationalisation efforts, even if it means that hundreds of of people die.
Not sure why nurses are C
NHS
Also at my uni, the people most familiar with strikes were the med and nursing students. Either they, their professors, or their future co-workers were constantly on strike or planning one
This is specifically about public servants lol healthcare nationalisation doesn't hurt them.
Could be the truly surprising, to me, amount of racism in the healthcare industry. Other than that, no idea. And if what you're saying is true, how are anesthesiologists' class interests more working class than a pediatrician?
Ironic because the stereotype within medicine is that you go into anesthesia if you don’t like talking to patients, and you’re lazy but want to make a lot of money just supervising CRNAs and playing sudoku. Not really true but lol they’re hardly the People’s Doctor
Haha I have a close relative who is an anesthesiologist and it's not that far from the truth
Which workers are expected to support action to reduce their income? And yet, majority of physicians DO support single payer now even though it would likely reduce their income (source). American College of Physicians even officially endorsed single payer (source). AMA is somewhere in between but still supports major overhaul. I’m a doctor and fully support M4A, and I suspect most young doctors do as well.
Workers that deliver significant benefits to society? I wish there was more employment for new grads in my field even though this would depress wages in the long run.
I would also note that single payer doesn't remotely mean the sorts of reforms that would actually ensure everyone has access, and I'm not sure the price gouging that goes with Medicare wouldn't similarly occur if its dreadful model was expanded.
who do you think performed all of those forced sterilizations on marginalized groups? Doctors were lobotomizing gay people as recently as the 50s. We're still suffering the effects of slavery even though it was a century and a half ago. Medical homophobia, transphobia, and racism were practiced as recently as 30 years ago. I will admit that most doctors have similar class interests to the proletariat, but they've historically been used as instruments of institutionalized bigotry.
Depends on the lawyers. Our publicly funded first nations lawyers are basically community organizers in the outer regions
A lot of private defense lawyers are just there to make sure the bourgeoisie never face any consequences. However, community aid lawyers and public defenders basically exist to foil cops, which is pretty fucking good.
Agree in part, except the public defender system is so badly funded in many places that they essentially work as an arm of the police and force bad plea deals or cooperation with police on their clients simply to get through their overload of cases. This is more a systematic failure and public defenders individually are generally working to do a good thing, but the profession overall isn’t really A-tier in practice
Anesthesiologists are doctors, why they are in S-tier if others are D-tier?
what's your rationale? I put doctors in D tier because I feel that general practitioners have way too much power over the patient-doctor relationship. For instance, POC, women, and trans people have all historically suffered at the hands of discrimination from doctors, and I don't see a similar phenomenon with veterinarians.
eh, good point. I'd probably put them in C tier since the consequences of having to pay too much on your bill isn't as bad as the consequences humans denied medical care face.
Hey, not trying to simp doctors and nurses but the reason your medical bill is high is not because of them. Yes they are fairly high wage earners but the real costs come from the arms race between insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies and hospitals each pointing at one another as the "real problem" while they all make bank.
Literally the reason Australia doesn't have public dental care is because it was too hard to take on both doctors and dentists at the time (before we got coup'd by the CIA and UK)
As someone whose been in the mental health system a lot, Psychologists deserve to be in A alongside social workers. Yes, there are old quacks, and the field as a whole has a lot of problems, but some of the most helpful of my many therapists were accredited psychologists.
Now psychiatrists on the other hand... C tier at best. And that's with nurses and normal doctors being moved up to A like they should be, too.
Chud town librarian helped me find a biography of Lenin when I was young and as far as I know didn't call the FBI, they're good in my book.
ily you have my dream job but I am not dedicated enough to get a masters degree in library science
OP is likely American, a country where decent public transport, such as trains, is strictly illegal
Construction related jobs too, you know we build schools, hospitals, and train stations.
Why is military above cops etc, why are private defense attorneys above healthcare workers, why are fucking tax collectors above healthcare workers, what the shit is going on here lol
The Coast Guard is slightly better than a water cop imo, also where are paramedics?
don't the coast guard rescue people from stranded boats and stuff? and they don't really do any combat or actual military shit in wars
They do enforce maritime law and are involved in a defemse capacity in some countries, but I've always looked at them as the guys who rescue people stranded in boats or fallen into water though. Maybe the American Coast Guard is uniquely shit. Personally, if you count as search and rescue you deserve some more love imo.
they are also the boat police kinda sorta some places, but yeah, I think most of what they do is respond to natural disasters, storms, and do rescues along the coast. I'd personally put it somewhere like B or C tier.
A good bit would have been "S tier - teachers, because they are the one assigning all the letter grades listed above"
