East Asia don't real. What a nincompoop.

        • SerLava [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Apparently the vaccine will handle all strains due to the new mechanism it uses (via mRNA) which targets the shell instead of the contents. This might actually be an approach to vaccinate against colds

            • Alaskaball [comrade/them]M
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              4 years ago

              Does making them free and widely available allow me and my sexpest rich friends to accumulate enough money to swim in an Olympic size swimming pool filled with benjies like Scrooge Mcduck?

            • kristina [she/her]
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              4 years ago

              im getting one soon because i come in contact with copd patients somewhat regularly and already have gotten it once, its apparently free

          • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
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            4 years ago

            Well, the mRNA vaccine will do this. I am looking at the vaccination plan for my state rn and they have a page here talking about the 4 different types of vaccines that are going to be distributed. So like 1/4 of the people getting a vaccine will get that broad protection (at least here in Illinois, and obviously this isn't based on hard math or anything)

              • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
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                4 years ago

                The plan I'm looking at was published on 01/10/21 and it says:

                "Vaccine-administration planning must reflect the four types of vaccines being manufactured:

                • mRNA or messenger ribonucleic acid

                • nonreplicating vector

                • protein adjuvant

                • live attenuated"

                My understanding is there are relaxed storage requirements on the other vaccines, so I would be willing to bet my kidneys that you will largely see the non-mRNA vaccines being distributed in larger quantities to places like clinics and retail pharmacies (where most of the people here will be getting the vaccine) that only have standard refrigerated storage.

  • Omegamint [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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    4 years ago

    Ugh guys there isn't anything deeper to read here. A lot of epidemiologists have assumed that coronavirus will simply be like the flu. It won't ever be eradicated and will continue to evolve and change and exist as a seasonal thing. Over the long term it will likely become less lethal. Also, it means that everyone should be prepared to take covid shots along with flu shots every year (please get your vaccines, guys).

    • DerEwigeAtheist [she/her, comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Here where i live noone is getting the flu shots because they cost money, and it's going to be the same with covid. If a test right now costs 150€ around here, i don't have much hope for a cheap vaccine.

        • daoumination [he/him,comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          depends on where and the insurance system. In france it's almost free to get tested, like 10-15 euros i hear. In the Netherlands and Germany it's 150 eur if you want to travel, if else up to the insurer to cover it or not depending on whether you have reasonable suspicion of being infected.

        • BeingfromInnerSpace [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Mexico. We're the lowest in terms of tests performed in any country of the OECD, at 3 tests per 100,000 inhabitants. You can get a free test in several states, including Mexico City, but this has not been a continuous program, and most of these have been quick tests, not PCR. In the private sector, tests can vary in price from 50 to 350 dollars.

      • Omegamint [comrade/them, doe/deer]
        ·
        4 years ago

        As someone whose gone without any form of healthcare for the last 10 years, I feel you. I was obviously aiming that towards those who had the ability to do so.

  • Woly [any]
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    4 years ago

    The moderna CEO is just outright stating that we aren't going to undertake a global eradication campaign like we did with smallpox. I mean, I don't think he's wrong, but fuck him.

  • Koa_lala [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    They're definitely going to spread this shit out unnecessarily long. At this point I think they're fucking hoping on endless new deadly strains.

    EDIT: If they make covid a "forever" thing. Imma check out of this world. seriously. Last year was so bad for my mental health. I am not going to be able to take this more than 5 years.

    EDIT: EDIT: " he said during a panel discussion at the JPMorgan Healthcare Conference." JPMorgan Healthcare conference. lmao. thats cursed as fuck.

    • Audeamus [any]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      If they make covid a “forever” thing. Imma check out of this world. seriously. Last year was so bad for my mental health. I am not going to be able to take this more than 5 years.

      I'm an introvert and I still find it depressing. But there are reasons for hope: 1) vaccines and quarantines do work, 2) society and individuals adjust to adversity - the new normal will eventually feel like the old and more stuff will be made safer, 3) common adversity builds revolutionary potential :match: - the "Hungry 40s" brought about the revolutions of 1848.

      So here's the 5 Year Plan, comrade: SURVIVE! Followed by the next 5 Year Plan: SURVIVE EVEN MORE AWESOMER! :darwin-backwards: :darwin-backwards: :darwin-backwards:

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    1 year ago

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  • _metamythical [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Vaccine CEO is supposed to say that their vaccine will be in demand. Anything else will sink their stocks, so take it with a grain of salt.

    • CanYouFeelItMrKrabs [any, he/him]
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      4 years ago

      others have said the same

      https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/what-is-an-endemic-virus

      https://archive.is/e3nk3

  • cilantrofellow [any]
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    4 years ago

    The second part is pretty brain dead. We were listed as the least vulnerable country to a pandemic in 2019, with China being on the bottom half.

    The virus is here forever though, not sure if there was any getting around that after it got so bad in Italy.

  • ant9 [he/him,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    He means we will be the first to have so many dead that the spread between communities just drops off.

    • Audeamus [any]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      On the one hand - fuck. On the other hand - autonomous anarchist collectives!

  • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Well that decides it. Tonight's movie is "Black Death" starring Sean Bean.

  • 7DeadlyFetishes [he/him,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    Covid is forever is the type of American pride and spirit that is most definitely unique to the proud meritocrat and innovator America is known for producing!

    -7DeadlyFetishes