https://twitter.com/IlhanMN/status/1359433096643371008
And yeah, $15 is still too low. 4 years is still too long. But there are still 18M people who make less than $10 an hour and increase the wealth of people at the poverty line by like $20B. Not gonna complain too much on this one.
Close the service industry loophole that allows employers to pay less than minimum wage because "it'll be made up by tips". Fuck it if a bunch of shitty restaurants have to close.
or, if you absolutely have to, give those places a tax credit that pays for the difference and nationalize shit small restaurants
its frustrating that I'm a better neoliberal than the neoliberals. If the Dems actually gave a shit about raising the minimum wage, this would be the retort to "wHaT aBoUt sMaLl BuSinEssEs"
Turning all small restaurants into co-ops would be fucking amazing. Just gotta get them all coordinated with a portion of their monthly profit going to a regional coordination council to help make sure everyone is taken care of even if there's a bad month. Also would allow for the workers to immediately do mutual aid on a mass scale.
Restaurants should pay the full minimum wage and do away with tipping
Absolutely not wtf
Working as a bartender or as wait staff is legitimately like the only way for someone who doesn't have a full college education, in a field that is hiring, to make a decent living.
If we want to raise the minimum wage to like $25-30 an hour, then yes, but till then all this would do is send a shit ton of people below the poverty line.
Yeah, abolish the "tipped wage" but tipping needs to be abolished as a social practice down the line (it sucks) rather than legislated clumsily
We also literally need socialism for the vast majority of working class people to have a comfortable life. Otherwise it’s just figuring out how to best divide the table scraps.
I don't particularly disagree, but that would lower wages for many service workers so ideally we would work around that.
I'm many states workers make the full minimum wage plus tips which works out for the better at least
What about backend workers like dishwashers, sorters, cooks, chefs, preppers? Are we less important than the servers?
No, you need a higher wage but backend don't get paid the tipped wage so I'm not sure what your point is. Or at least you shouldn't be.
No need for loaded questions like that, I'm not sure what kind of point you're making anyway.....
I can't believe Americans are settling for a $15 minimum wage. That shit is still so low.
I've seen a ton of people arguing it's too high and will destroy the economy and shit
Isn’t it more like 24 if adjusted for what is needed to be a “liveable wage.”
Don't worry, by the time this happens in 2025, we'll get to start this shit all over again
Don’t worry, by the time 2025 rolls around we will have established the USSA and abolished our current labor system to adopt the 4/20/69 workweek.
4 hours a day, 20 hours a week, $69 minimum wage
Just abolish hourly wage and switch to salary. Everyone on the same work week and people who need to work on weekends get a bonus for the week. Hourly wages are bullshit.
Probably so. Iirc it would also be around that level if it was still coupled to worker productivity like it was before the 70's
Did they also travel back in time ten years to when that would've been a living wage?
Why do they always have to give it enough of a delay that if the government changes hands again (duh) it can get reversed or cancelled.
Republicans kick and scream and make lots of idle threats, but the wage is often so far below the prevailing natural price floor on labor that it doesn't matter.
You would need a fresh law to reverse it, which is true of any law. They could make the min wage $25 starting today and the next administration could make it $5.
The next President can't cancel it through executive order
This is true, but there's a difference between cancelling a scheduled increase and actually cutting real people's wages after they've really been raised.
Both would be politically toxic but the second one much more so. Honestly though, I don't think either is likely.
On the other hand, has the minimum wage ever gone down in the US before? Like Republicans are fighting it here because they know they won't be able to undo it if they ever take power.
It's very slightly better than nothing. Which is, frankly, more than I expected from this legislature.
Most places have already independently raised their minimum to $10. Some are doing $12. This is totally pointless. If the biggest minimum wage offenders are already almost to $15, it means $15 is too low right now. And this will make it $15 in 5 years
It is, but peoole who have to work min wage due to felonies will at least get a raise and thats good. Lots of states still have 7.25 min wage which is shit.
I agree, but this is not a victory, it's the barest of concessions and has 5 years to be stonewalled.
I mean there are many places that should have s higher wage than the national minimum. $15 minimum wage nationally makes it easier to go higher than that in some cities and states
The Fight for $15 started in 2012. Assuming an annual inflation rate of 2%, $15 in 2025 will be about $11.60 in 2012 dollars. Meaning, the wage increase is 45% less than what was originally asked for.
(someone please check my math on this)
This is the bare minimum of what's expected of any 'progressives' in congress.
Is this the one that won't come to pass for 3 or 4 years? And only for public servants?
No this one would apply to everyone. It would increase the wage a bit each year before hitting $15 in 2025 or 2026
