How would these "seize total unchecked power", this isn't a video game, capturing the government HQ dosen't all of a sudden make you control the government
Do you think if they somehow managed to occupy the Capitol for long enough; the military, police, and capital would be forced to do whatever they say and let them usher in whatever state they wish?
Ahh...just gonna play down the entire thing. Not even going to entertain the possibility that they could have murdered every progressive congressperson and kneecapped what little left representation we have?
They DID capture the capitol. No, some small-business shitheads didn't set up a provisional government.
But you are on some serious shit if you think we should just ignore what happened as if it won't happen again. Failed coups when not properly addressed often turn into successful coups. Ignore that at your own peril
I think downplaying what happened is a bit cold hearted and not the left I’m used to. Remeber AoC was questioning whether she was going to be able to get the chance to have children.
Some on the left seem to want to downplay fascism or reactionary threats lately just to shit on liberals and Democrats.Wrong tactic in a time of rising bigotry and right-wing conscious
The true right is finally rearing it’s head in America and some people on this forum continue to only want to shit-post about liberals, Jesus Christ
Seems like you leave little room for nuance in your analysis of people. I also find it bizarre a supposed leftist has such a cold hearted response to a young progressive politician scared for her life. People like AOC aren’t idealized leftists, but they are the best we have for now.
The people who entered the capital were fascists looking for blood and mayhem. We shouldn’t be showing them sympathy or downplaying them. These are fascists and they are the new face of the Republican Party. They deserve derision and scorn. Leftists are anti-fascist period. We don’t ally with them just because they have revolutionary ambitions like we do
The true right is finally resting it’s head in America and some people on this forum continue to only want to shit-post about liberals, Jesus christ
This is one of the primary reasons why I don't even bother coming here anymore. Some of the people in this board still think it's the Obama years, which requires them to completely ignore the rising tide of rightwing thought that has swept the country
I like it here, but i also think anti-fascism is just an important part of the left as anything else. I’m a white dude, but I’m also a drug addict and mentally ill. I wouldn’t last long in a fascist regime. Meaning I know what it’s like to be othered and not some spoiled upper middle class Wasp kid
You have irony-poisoned yourself stupid. They seized the capitol by force. People died. They weren't invited in. Just because they were stupid about it and couldn't execute a longer plan doesn't mean their immediate objective of taking the building failed. Ignore that if you want but it's what happened.
No, this is a fair point. There were many within the ranks who aided and abetted and there has to be a reckoning with that. Still though, many of the insurrectionists fought through police lines and it was quite apparent that they (the insurrectionists) were a hostile force.
Imagine thinking the Dedicated security for congress completely abrogating that responsibility and putting them in danger is an argument against "this was a coup attempt".
It's probably the single biggest thing that sets this apart from a riot or a tantrum or whatever else people want to call it.
They walked around taking photos and staying in the roped tourist lanes.
They beat a cop to death with a fire extinguisher.
I don't understand the obsessive need to downplay what happened any more than I understand the libs need to act like it was some sort of life changing PTSD inducing event just by watching it on TV.
More plausible scenario is that they get ahold of a couple of democrats and murder them.
Then you probably have a shitload of very very angry people on the streets, because they are rightfully angry.
Now we have fascists killing members of congress backed up by the president, angry mobs in the streets, and 800k cops who are mostly eager to abuse and kill members of those mobs.
but you know, that sort of instability and violence doesn't really matter becasue some dude tased himself in the balls.
How would these "seize total unchecked power", this isn't a video game, capturing the government HQ dosen't all of a sudden make you control the government
Do you think if they somehow managed to occupy the Capitol for long enough; the military, police, and capital would be forced to do whatever they say and let them usher in whatever state they wish?
Ahh...just gonna play down the entire thing. Not even going to entertain the possibility that they could have murdered every progressive congressperson and kneecapped what little left representation we have?
Yes dumbass because that didn't happen. They walked around taking photos and staying in the roped tourist lanes.
You must be on some strong shit to think those protestors could have captured the capitol and instituted national fascism.
They DID capture the capitol. No, some small-business shitheads didn't set up a provisional government.
But you are on some serious shit if you think we should just ignore what happened as if it won't happen again. Failed coups when not properly addressed often turn into successful coups. Ignore that at your own peril
Fuck off and log out
I think downplaying what happened is a bit cold hearted and not the left I’m used to. Remeber AoC was questioning whether she was going to be able to get the chance to have children.
Some on the left seem to want to downplay fascism or reactionary threats lately just to shit on liberals and Democrats.Wrong tactic in a time of rising bigotry and right-wing conscious
The true right is finally rearing it’s head in America and some people on this forum continue to only want to shit-post about liberals, Jesus Christ
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Seems like you leave little room for nuance in your analysis of people. I also find it bizarre a supposed leftist has such a cold hearted response to a young progressive politician scared for her life. People like AOC aren’t idealized leftists, but they are the best we have for now.
The people who entered the capital were fascists looking for blood and mayhem. We shouldn’t be showing them sympathy or downplaying them. These are fascists and they are the new face of the Republican Party. They deserve derision and scorn. Leftists are anti-fascist period. We don’t ally with them just because they have revolutionary ambitions like we do
This is one of the primary reasons why I don't even bother coming here anymore. Some of the people in this board still think it's the Obama years, which requires them to completely ignore the rising tide of rightwing thought that has swept the country
I like it here, but i also think anti-fascism is just an important part of the left as anything else. I’m a white dude, but I’m also a drug addict and mentally ill. I wouldn’t last long in a fascist regime. Meaning I know what it’s like to be othered and not some spoiled upper middle class Wasp kid
You have irony-poisoned yourself stupid. They seized the capitol by force. People died. They weren't invited in. Just because they were stupid about it and couldn't execute a longer plan doesn't mean their immediate objective of taking the building failed. Ignore that if you want but it's what happened.
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No, this is a fair point. There were many within the ranks who aided and abetted and there has to be a reckoning with that. Still though, many of the insurrectionists fought through police lines and it was quite apparent that they (the insurrectionists) were a hostile force.
Imagine thinking the Dedicated security for congress completely abrogating that responsibility and putting them in danger is an argument against "this was a coup attempt".
It's probably the single biggest thing that sets this apart from a riot or a tantrum or whatever else people want to call it.
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lol
They beat a cop to death with a fire extinguisher.
I don't understand the obsessive need to downplay what happened any more than I understand the libs need to act like it was some sort of life changing PTSD inducing event just by watching it on TV.
More plausible scenario is that they get ahold of a couple of democrats and murder them.
Then you probably have a shitload of very very angry people on the streets, because they are rightfully angry.
Now we have fascists killing members of congress backed up by the president, angry mobs in the streets, and 800k cops who are mostly eager to abuse and kill members of those mobs.
but you know, that sort of instability and violence doesn't really matter becasue some dude tased himself in the balls.