• glimmer_twin [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I can’t believe it has to be said, but no leftist should EVER be on the side of the imperialists. It’s really not that hard.

    • Amorphous [any]
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      4 years ago

      God I'm glad to have chapo back

      """anarchist""" internet spaces ban you for saying shit like this

      • kristina [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        can confirm. im just a run of the mill marxist and got banned from breadtube for asking where the satellite images of all these concentration camps that held 1 million uighurs were. the holocaust had thousands of active camps for killing jews.

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          Yep. I'm banned from /r/anarchism and raddle for linking the book Fraud, Famine, and Fascism by Douglas Tottle. Because if you don't literally accept the word of Nazis (1930s/1940s actual Nazis, not neo-nazis) you are a genocide denier and a tankie and scum or whatever.

  • CommCat [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    if you ever wondered how former leftists turned into raging neocons during the cold war...

    • lvysaur [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2015/05/21/americans-remember-opposing-2003-war-iraq

      25% of Americans are lying to themselves about the iraq war (pretending they didn't support it)
      20% of reps, and 30% of dems lied on the poll.
      At the time of Bush's announcement, 72% of Americans supported the illegal invasion of Iraq. 25% opposed it in 2003.

      This means that 25% of Americans are sane, 50% are insane and proud, 25% are insane and ashamed.
      Also it means that 45% of Democrats, and 14% of Republicans were sane in 2003.

  • artangels [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    i dont know who novara is but it doesn't get more suspicious than actively saying we should side with imperialists?

    • AndThatIsWhyIDrink [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      Trots running leftist media company in the UK. Quite well known. They're okay when operating entirely within the boundaries of electoral politics within the UK and absolute dogshit on anything outside of that.

    • Lee [any,they/them]
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      4 years ago

      TBH I thought it was a bit for that sentence alone but I'm really bad at knowing genuine evil from joke evil.

  • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    They saw how everyone came together to oppose Iraq, and now they spend a few cycles on splitting the left on imperialism. Lesson learned I guess. This is especially frustrating because opposing US intervention is the easy stuff.

    • KiaKaha [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Look idk about you but I heard SadDAMN threw babies out of incubators.