absolute suffering
indescribable pain
turns out the whole "defeat Le Pen by becoming her" thing didn't work out :macron:
“defeat Le Pen by becoming her”
it was actually "defeat the left by making right-wing policies mainstream" in small print the whole time
And once more centrists and the mainstream right is arrogant enough to believe the fascist avalanche they're starting is not going to crush them as well.
All the right-wingers just always say "This just proves that we were right all along and have to support our candidate even harder".
How are the French people so good at calling the government out on bullshit, but their government still ends up looking like this?
French people are still white people. They can be just as racist as Americans.
oh yeah, for sure racism is a problem in France. I was more thinking about austerity, for example, which they constantly riot over, but the two leading politicians are pro austerity as far as I know.
I think it's mostly that the socialist parties leader is unpopular. He got caught up in some corruption and said something akin to, I am the state. So people don't like him. If there was a more popular socialist leader mac and pen would have more stiff competition.
Right wing populism can thrive under austerity. It may not fix things, but it garners support.
lemme tell you how garbage the french constitution is from a Turkish perspective.
so Turkey had this parliamentary system similar to the German constitution. the parliament is where the votes go. if a party within parliament gets more than 50%, they get to appoint a prime minister, if nobody gets to 50%, a number of parties have to form a coalition that amounts to 50%.
There were a couple of caveats with the turkish system...one being that the military could suspend it at any given time.
and come the 2016 failed coup attempt(and also the rise of the maligned progressive hdp), the nation is outraged that they experienced a failed coup attempt(and also outraged that the hdp had gained some serious power, at the cost of the ruling party). "what are we, an African country or some shit?" was the common national media sentiment at the time.
and so the ruling party of turkey, the akp, holds a referendum and proposes they redesign their constitution after the french one for the sake of real democracy.
but it's pure liberalism(dictatorship with a nice face). it's designed to make sure nobody rocks the boat. they make it so that only the two most popular parties can ever have control of the executive branch in the name of stability and dEmoCRaCy.
the context of the current french constitution is it was rewritten after the french algerian crises by De Gaulle and his people...it simply empowers reactionary forces. not good.
Also there are many who don't vote and the polls show pretty much the contradictions of a nation of which's felt and previous elite is in material decline. Yes, mostly the whitees.
The French know power lies in the streets no matter who is in charge. That is my optimistic lens anyway...
I look forward to macron getting more racist to appeal to her supporters
any french chapos with some hopium? could some leftist candidate possibly rise to the top?
please :deeper-sadness:
they have a socialist party that at least holds some parliamentary seats.
no nation anywhere is as fucked as the united states, so cheer up. their constitution is pretty much modeled after the American one, it empowers reactionaries by making populist reforms difficult.
The Socialist Party in France is a bunch of domesticated institutionalised succdems and suck just as much as you would expect thosr to. There are parties on the left in France though but they're not powerful enough to run a successful candidate for president anytime soon.
that's not much of a surprise to learn. even then tho, as an american, I'm coming at it from a perspective where supporting m4a and a green new deal is a slippery slope to getting sent to the gulag.
do french parties have a barrier to entry to get into parliament? I know in germany, if a party doesnt have something like 5%, even if they win their district they cant get in.
French presidential elections are runoff elections where a second round is held between the two candidates with most votes of neither got a majority in the first round.
Elections for the national assembly are FPTP elections much like in the US or UK. The senate is elected indirectly by an electoral college fair each department consisting of elected officials like local councillors. The districtinc of senate seats greatly favours rural areas and the right.
that sounds worse than I thought. i didn't know there was a national assembly and senate. sounds like the legislative branch of France exists to create confusion just like here in the us.
being familiar with turkey, the fact that the turkish state(akp) modeled their new constitution after the French one was enough for me to conclude that the French system was garbage.
Liberal capitalism descending into full-bore fascism? Who could have predicted this?
Polls for the first round of the French Presidential election here. France has a dumb system, the top two winners of the first vote move on to the second vote to become president.
So looks like Bertrand is the socalist candidate polling at 15% while Macron 24% and Le Pen 26%. Ooph not good
https://www.politico.eu/europe-poll-of-polls/france/
France has a dumb system, the top two winners of the first vote move on to the second vote to become president.
Isn't this just like the Bolivian system? or is the second round 100% mandatory in France?
No, it's the same as in all the countries with run-offs - there's no run-off if someone gets a majority the first time.
fair enough
having a president
not something I understand on convict & racism island
godawful take, the only ones negatively affected will be poor people and minorities
unironically China has to ASAP start sharing nuke tech with non-white countries, if they haven't already
the biggest threat to non-white life is white nuclear countries falling to slew of WN political victories who actively start invading/nuking non-white nations.
Nope. Everyone in France are white guys with pencil mustaches and striped shirts who eat Brie cheese on Baguettes for lunch. One day out of the week they dress up as mimes.
They reproduce by budding.
