Ik a lot of the hate for the books is rooted in misogyny but I'm never gonna stop trashing them over the way adult men grooming young girls (and in one case a literal newborn) is presented as not only normal but romantic :cringe:
spoiler
The Bella-Edward-Jacob love triangle is "resolved" by having Jacob uhhhh what was the word, "imprint" on Bella+Edward's creepy half-vampire(?) literal newborn child, which is presented as functionally falling in love at first sight and, like, Vowing To Protect Her until she's old enough to marry him and maybe uh, like, partially raise her or be like Cool Uncle Werewolf or something???? The details elude me but it's nasty pedo shit presented as Pure Love
he claims the daughter will simply fall in love with him as she grows old, or he'll just be her protector for life. But it's definitely the former. That book was so fucking bad.
I'm so glad they could finally empathize once the focal character became a straight dude.
I'll admit I was on the hate train as a teenager, but a lot of people just turned it into shitting on women and girls for liking something.
Don't get me wrong. The author wrote in problematic shit, but most of the criticism I heard was misogynistic or homophobic.
It's so fun to be drowned out by chuds' shit takes when you have a valid point to bring up.
So Stephanie Meyer just writes a book swapping the gender roles, and 4chan likes it because it’s basically anime? Am I reading that right?
yes.
but is it a better love story than twilight if its literally just twilight as a tsundere-harem anime?
:blob-no:
That all depends on execution, but a tsun/yandere Edward(Edie?) would be an entertaining take for a while
i mean, yeah, any story is like 90% how the thing is told as to whether or not its enjoyable to read
but its still gonna be the same y.a vampire 'romance' drama-slop, soooo my entertainment is confined to meme potential sooo
the original had a pregnancy part right? will there be male impreg in this book?
they like it because they're so brain dead they can only relate to a character if it's a straight dude
“Woman is taken advantage of by a creepy super old guy and has a love triangle with a stereotype of a Native American”
4chan: wat
“Same thing but with flipped genders”
I’m really enjoying the twilight reassessment that’s going on for the past couple of years. As someone who loved it as a kid but bought into the peer pressure elf hating it, being able to like twilight again feels very freeing.
Also, I’d definitely read that gender-swapped book.
My brain just came up with "Peer Pressure Elf on a Shelf" and I hate it.
all the other elves are sitting on shelves fëanor, why arnt you ?
:geordi-no: silmarils
:geordi-yes: shelves
I'm mostly surprised at how much anti-twilight sentiment there is when Buffy gets treated with reverence and we have stuff like "Wot if the archie characters had sex and did a murder" as a succesful multi-season show.
I'd guess that the hate on Twilight compared to those other stories is a function of popularity. Twilight was huge and overexposed; it culminated in a series of big-budget movies. Buffy wasn't nearly that big -- it wasn't on a major network and was overshadowed by some of the last real monoculture shows (e.g., Seinfeld and Friends). The Archie remake is even lower profile.
I never thought I'd get to roll out my nuanced twilight take I perfected in middle school again!
Ultimate conclusion: definitely a bad work of art but also entertaining and the movies have a fun soundtrack and are shot well mostly
Edit: Mormon propaganda
Personally I think its more these people are highly socially alienated and thus are starving for any form of love and affection; and a problematic version of that like with this has extra appeal as it shows guys as the object of desire and pursuit, something that is not the norm in modern society, and can satiate their need to feel wanted and valued intimately by another. I'm pretty socially inept and have had little success romantically, and these kinds of fantasies hold an appeal to me too because I really want someone to desire me.
Well I hope you have nice friends at least. I don't think my heart could take another relationship where i never knew if they actually cared about me or not. I can't tell you what to do or change but I do believe that we have indirect control over what we like and who we love. I hope your life changes in a way where you can find room for someone who wants to make you happy and horny.
Hold on.
This is a real book?
edit: from the wiki
The book was originally published on October 6, 2015 as part of an "oversized flip-book pairing" with Twilight to celebrate the original novel's tenth anniversary.
oh no please I can't handle thinking about the fact that Twilight came out sixteen years ago it's too much
Noah Berlatsky of The Atlantic, who has never seen a correct opinion he couldn't immediately position himself to the opposite side of,
I'm a dude in my late 20s who watched all the movies a year or 2 ago, initially for shits and giggles, but now I both ironically and unironically kinda like them.
