Permanently Deleted

    • disco [any]
      ·
      4 years ago

      you burn like a max of 10 calories a day working out

      Why are you just outright posting misinformation like this.

        • disco [any]
          ·
          edit-2
          4 years ago

          I think you maybe are missing another key fact which is if you exercise regularly it will raise your resting metabolism. Also, if you build muscle, it takes more calories to maintain that muscle than it does to maintain an equal weight of fat, so as you build muscle your body will burn more calories, raising your resting metabolism even further.

            • disco [any]
              ·
              4 years ago

              Time to join us in the Swoletariat, brother.

                • disco [any]
                  ·
                  4 years ago

                  Well let me tell you this. I have gained 20 lbs of muscle in the last year, and I look exactly the same. Muscle is much denser than fat, so you can actually put on a lot of muscle, while staying the same size, or even shrinking.

                  At the very least, I would encourage some cardio because it's the best thing you can do for your overall health, and it can also help if you need to run from the cops.

    • StaticDreams [he/him]
      ·
      4 years ago

      The latest and greatest in "NO MOM I DON'T WANT TO GO OUTSIDE AND PLAY!" posting.

      Exercise you lazy dingbats.

    • eduardog3000 [he/him]
      ·
      4 years ago

      You also don't lose weight by laying around all day. You lose weight by using more calories than you consume, and laying around doesn't use very many calories.

      Plus, diet can easily be part of the same feedback loop. I guess I didn't really state the mental health aspect, but the less you move around the worse on your mental health. And what's a pretty common way people cope with mental health problems like depression? Food. Exercise could help mentally but oh no you're too fat and depressed and exercising is a major pain to start doing both physically and mentally. I've lived this for years, I still live it even though I've managed to lose some weight. It's a horrible loop.

        • eduardog3000 [he/him]
          ·
          4 years ago

          I didn't say it was a perfect indicator. I said being fat is inherently unhealthy, with one example being it leads to a drop in exercise, which leads to physical and mental problems, which leads to less exercise and more weight.

            • eduardog3000 [he/him]
              ·
              4 years ago

              just… eat less

              Yeah because that's so easy. Again, weight -> less exercise -> worse mental health, worse physical health -> food to cope, less exercise -> more weight -> repeat. I'm not saying people get fat because of a lack of exercise, I'm saying it's a feedback loop that makes your life worse and worse.

              I was just saying that how heavy you are has very little to do with actual fitness. Sure, it can make you more inclined to not exercise, but that’s a huuuuuge reach.

              It literally makes it physically harder to exercise...

                • eduardog3000 [he/him]
                  ·
                  4 years ago

                  No. The harder exercise is, the less you exercise. This isn't lifting a slightly bigger weight or running a little further. At one point I would get a pain in my diaphragm after walking for just like 5 minutes. When that's the case you tend to just not try at all.

            • Gkalaitza [he/him]
              ·
              4 years ago

              eat less than your burning by laying around all day.

              thats a very restricting amount of food tbh, exercizing giving you more leeway to still eat satisfactory and lose weight

      • PurrLure [she/her]
        ·
        4 years ago

        the less you move around the worse on your mental health. And what’s a pretty common way people cope with mental health problems like depression? Food. Exercise could help mentally but oh no you’re too fat and depressed and exercising is a major pain to start doing both physically and mentally.

        That happened to me for a few years after college and then a bit during covid. Shit sucks and it's a really easy spiral to go down when fast food is so cheap. :deeper-sadness:

    • Gkalaitza [he/him]
      ·
      4 years ago

      You lose weight by taking in less calories than you burn and working out is an amazing way of increasing the calories you burn thus making way easier to lose weight while eating normal amounts. Dont give people bad advice. For an overweight person trying to lose weight even walking a couple of km per day will make an huge difference and burn hundreds of calories + the positive feedback loop of energy and hormones you get by actualy doing even mild excersize

        • Gkalaitza [he/him]
          ·
          edit-2
          4 years ago

          I mean OF COURSE eating is the primary and most important thing. That doesnt mean excersize isnt a great tool to use for weight loss. And especially for overweight people that want to not just lose weight but feel more healthy and able with their bodies ,which comes with losing wieght but is greatly magnified when you lose weight while doing som excersize. And its easpecially helpfull if you dont want to reduce your food by significant amounts or change big things in your diet, which is something that losing weight through only diet includes. And the closer you get to your goal , the more intensely you can work out and the more you can eat while still losing weight. Of course there are time constraints but the question is for 40minutes to an hour a day, not 10.

          You lose 1kg of weight by burning up about 7k more calories than you intake. If someone is overweight and mostly static in their bodyweight it means that they more or less on average are in a caloric balance. 40 minutes of fast walking a day burns upwards of 230 calories for an overweight person. So that person can with no changes in their diet still lose an aditional 1kg a month just from that 40 minutes a day excersize that of course wont built muscle, maybe only some the first month. Small adjustments in diet can make it 2kg a month. Its hugely important and makes a difference, especially for people that would struggle with trying to lose weight just by making drastic changes in their diet. And thats beyond all the other objective benifits that

        • RION [she/her]
          ·
          4 years ago

          It's true that the exercise doesn't burn too many calories by itself, except if you go really really hard. Two things, however:

          1. Even if it isn't much, the calories lost can help over a longer timescale. If adding in even just a little exercise brings me to a 100 calorie deficit, that stacks up over time. And more importantly, you're not gaining weight and exacerbating the issues. That's something I've been trying to get myself to appreciate - even if I'm not losing weight at the clip I'd like to, at least I'm (hopefully) not going in the other direction.
          2. The bigger benefit is an increase in muscle mass. Muscle burns more calories at rest than fat, increasing your Basal Metabolic Rate. All other things being equal, exercising to build muscle will result in more calories burned, and more weight lost.

          Of course, everything doesn't happen in a vacuum, and compensating for exercise with increased food intake can stifle progress. But even if diet is the lion's share of the effort, exercise is still important.