What would they do?

  • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    First of all right off the bat all white christian males would undergo forced feminization via industrial strength soy injections.

  • Multihedra [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    You’d have to be fucking nuts to want the US, I’d try and get rid of that shit as soon as possible (or never “take” it in the first place). Once the US is stripped of its hegemonic control of money markets, I think it has very little to offer the world, at least in the near-term

    Plus you’ve got chuds absolutely frothing at the mouth to do genocide, huge inequalities and aggrieved groups with the divide having developed over a few centuries.

    An absolute powder keg waiting to explode, especially if there were to be a huge, sudden shift in the way things are. We’re slowly boiling over, but I can’t even imagine what an exogenous sudden rupture would cause

    It just doesn’t feel feel prudent to get involved in that, so I’m very skeptical China would want to

    • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Yeah I agree, I didn't actually expect anyone to give a serious answer though so you now have to give a joke answer too. Sorry thats the rule

    • DeathToBritain [she/her, they/them]
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      3 years ago

      China doesn't ever really do regime change. now sure we've only seen them as a super power flexing influence very recently, but it's just not their MO. China is more than happy to work with whomever, and but heads with whomever, regardless of ideology. in fact African leaders have often cited that the fact China doesn't get involved in internal politics with it's development is why they like China over western powers

  • IlIlIlIlIlIlIl [any]
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    3 years ago

    The death of an empire will not be pretty. When the Nazis fell, they took tens of millions with them. I fear to know how many the Americans will take with them when they in turn fall.

    It is most probable that fascist paramilitaries and death squads will roam the countryside murdering anyone who they consider undesirables. Famine will grip the country as supply lines collapse due to the bombed out infrastructure. There will be a second Holocaust, committed not by a foreign power, but by Americans murdering other Americans. Tens of millions (in America alone) will die in the ensuing chaos, many from starvation, others from the paramilitaries.

    America is simply too big for China to control. Too vast, too populous for any hope of a successful and bloodless occupation. There are 332,000,000 Americans. America is 9,100,000km2 in area. To occupy something that large would be madness, it would require China to commit tens of millions of troops for the sole purpose of a pointless occupation over a vast land of roaming insurgents. China will not commit tens of millions of Chinese to sacrifice their lives in a pointless excursion to hell-on-earth. It would be political suicide to even suggest so. China can really only watch in horror as everything unfolds.

    It is incredibly unfortunate and I so wish it were otherwise, but the bigger they are, the harder they fall. And the American empire is the largest empire in all of history.

        • AbbysMuscles [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          I've thought about it. A lot. But I'm an almost thirty year old, American, trans woman. I would forever be an outsider, a stranger in a land with an incredibly different culture, philosophical tradition, and even language than what I'm accustomed to.

          I suppose Cuba would be the least foreign of the socialist nations for me to move to. As unlikely as that is, I wonder how difficult it would be?

          • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            I dunno, I am not even sure I like chinese culture but they have nerds there same as here. I'd comfortably fit in someplace just as poorly i think.

            I had been thinking about cuba but I think it will sink into the sea soon.

            • AbbysMuscles [she/her]
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              3 years ago

              Cuba's fairly mountainous, so my uneducated guess is that rising sea levels won't annihilate them (though the costal cities will still have a rough time). I'd wager that rising temperature and humidity will be the primary threat there.

    • sam5673 [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      America is much more likely to fizzle out as a world power than collapse, Much more britain in the 40's than Iraq a decade or so ago

  • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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    3 years ago

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  • CantStopWontStop1917 [any]
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    3 years ago

    If by "took over the US" you mean as the world superpower, then I see nothing but good things happening. take the UK for example. Only once their empire started declining were widescale social welfare systems starting to be implemented. I believe the same can happen in America. Sorry MTWs but I don't think china would be vindictive enough to physically annex the US or plunder our resources like we did in the post-soviet nations. They know the effects of shit like that first hand. The most they'd want is a new government that's subservient to Chinese interests. If you want Universal Healthcare, the only realistic way towards a leftward shift in American politics would be China winning. There's not going to pogroms against POC in this scenario people, calm your tits.

    • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      No, there will be sporatic and terrible violence. We just dont have the stamina to keep it up. So a few mosques will get burned down and whoever else has bad luck. Just as soon as the first group of white folk gets shot the fight will go out of the rest though

  • DeathToBritain [she/her, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    I am gonna be real, as much as people want China to create a soviet states of America, that's likely not going to happen. regime change is not really China's thing. I suspect that at most they'd put a generic American politician in power who is happy to work with Chinese leaders, but even that is a huge departure from anything China has ever done outside it's own borders. I think they'd mostly just strip the US of it's sphere of influence, it's military bases, and most importantly supplant the petro-dollar with the yuan greatly crippling US economic power all around

    • Express [any,none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      There is no future where the US isn’t a major regional power outside of full scale civil war and Balkanization.

      • DeathToBritain [she/her, they/them]
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        3 years ago

        by cutting off it's international financial influence to a large degree, it will become far far weaker. but, knowing the US this wouldn't mean less military spending just more of the budget goes on military spending. like you say, the only way America collapses is inwards, which is not impossible but is going to be one total fucking shitshow of violence

        • Express [any,none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          I’m pretty convinced this is already happening, but these dynamics take time to play out and just because your right doesn’t mean it’s happening in your lifetime.

          • DeathToBritain [she/her, they/them]
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            3 years ago

            I think it will absolutely happen soon. once the ecological impacts of climate change hit the united states hard shit is gonna go ham. half their country is already on fire at any one time, you just wait until Arizona, Nevada, hell even California become unlivable. the great plains farming that is the backbone to middle america is on a ticking time bomb to dust bowl 2.0 with the mass depletion of the Ogallala aquifer. racial and political violence is already extremely normalised in America, with many armed groups already armed and trained to seize power locally when they can. if China supplanted America as the hegemon, or even just beat America back into their own corner, the US empire would absolutely collapse within, and quickly too

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        Full scale "civil war" in the US would be a world war in my opinion. Every single interested party would put in forces, Russia, China, NATO and south american factions. I even think Cuba would put troops in.

        This would become a world war very quickly. And that's leaving out the domestic factions that will be involved.

        • BezosDied [any]
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          3 years ago

          Why didn’t that happen for the last civil war?

          • Awoo [she/her]
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            3 years ago

            It didn't have a bajillion nukes that could fall into literally anyone's hands.

            Foreign powers are going to want to secure that nuclear supply. And other foreign powers are going to want to secure the people securing that nuclear supply for fear of ulterior motives. This will result in multiple competing foreign powers dumping troops into the region. And those nuclear weapons are scattered everywhere in the country, meaning Canada, Mexico and Cuba all have something nearby to be concerned about, on top of their concerns about the international powers that will come knocking.

  • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Do you mean 'won' against the US government, or against the US people?

    Because I think if China truly somehow totally defeated and occupied the US, analogous to what happened to Japan 1945, then they'd only be beginning the protracted conflict.

    I think the majority of POC would accept their rule, with a large portion or even majority of Whites rejecting, and there would pretty much be a race war on US soil.

    Ironically this would actually help China's interests by depopulating the US, but only if they ran weapons to POC, otherwise it would just be one-sided and Holocaust-tier.

    I think it's extremely likely that China would keep control of the West Coast, B.Columbia and some of the Rocky areas.

    • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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      3 years ago

      I don't really know what I mean, lol. I'm just an idiot thinking out loud. Interpret the question as you will. It's just for fun.

  • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Clearly replace all our bread with rice and all our forks and knives with chopsticks

    I am an expert on these things, I'm from Ohio