• Mardoniush [she/her]
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    7 months ago

    "I John Brown am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away, but with Blood. I had... vainly flattered myself that without very much bloodshed, it might be done."

  • CrimsonSage [any]
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    7 months ago

    This shit genuinely makes me feel insane. This is like legislating the sky is lemon merangue pie levels of crazy.

    • LaughingLion [any, any]
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      7 months ago

      it is now officially the stance of the us government that judaism is a genocidal religion

      fucking wild

    • regul [any]
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      7 months ago

      i mean why even dignify it with a vote

      • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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        7 months ago

        If you're gonna be there anyway, and you're already pretty much 100% committed to trying to solve things through the imperial government, why not?

    • LaughingLion [any, any]
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      7 months ago

      she got got by leadership and this was as much protest as she could muster i imagine

      she didnt vote yes so ill give her that

  • BeamBrain [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.

  • frosty99c@midwest.social
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    7 months ago

    Wow, my rep is actually on the right side of something for once. I absolutely don't want to know his reasoning for voting no because I'm sure it's unhinged.

    • CTHlurker [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      Thomas Massie has been consistently against any of the symbolic declarations of support for Israel for a while, to the point where AIPAC tried to run a smear campaign against him with his face in a black and white poster with the Words "Jew Hater" written underneath. I think he responded by declaring it election interference, but nothing came of it (obviously) but the guy somehow managed to stay seated.

      Edit: Misspelled the freaks name

    • GinAndJuche
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      7 months ago

      Edit: I was wrong fucking stupid reasoning.

      Critical support either way. Somebody has the balls to stand up to aipac at least.

      • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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        7 months ago

        you do not, under any circumstances, gotta hand it to a libertarian US senator. he supports Israel's "right to exist," he just doesn't think it's antisemitic to disagree. average libertarian contrarian tantrum where he affirms all the premises of the institutions but rejects one of the conclusions based on a piddling technicality, thereby ensuring that everyone yells at him and he preserves his outsider veneer without actually having to affect anything or stand for something.

        basically the right wing version of Bernie.

          • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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            7 months ago

            I think MTG is the current record holder for antisemitism in a national representative, and she supports Israel. /pol/ twerps might be able to win the election for comptroller in Dogfuck, Idaho, but they do nothing for anyone at the federal level.

        • GinAndJuche
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          7 months ago

          Fucking freeze peach dumbassery. I withdraw my prior statement.

    • manuallybreathing [comrade/them]
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      7 months ago

      Jewish Voice for Peace (JVP) is a radical anti-Israel and anti-Zionist activist group that advocates for the boycott of Israel and eradication of Zionism.

      JVP does not represent the mainstream Jewish community, which it views as bigoted for its association with Israel. JVP’s staunch anti-Zionist positions place it squarely in opposition to mainstream American Jews and Jews worldwide, most of whom view a connection with Israel as an integral part of their social, cultural or religious Jewish identities. JVP promulgates the view that Jews who identify even tangentially with Israel are motivated by white supremacy, Jewish racial chauvinism and religious supremacism.

      https://www.adl.org/resources/blog/jewish-voice-peace-jvp-what-you-need-know

      how good is gatekeeping a cultural identity in order to preserve a genocidal settler colony?

      • VILenin [he/him]
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        7 months ago

        JVP promulgates the view that Jews who identify even tangentially with Israel are motivated by white supremacy, Jewish racial chauvinism and religious supremacism.

        Correct?

  • SUPAVILLAIN@lemmygrad.ml
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    7 months ago

    Genocidal settler bastards. Death to Amerika, death to Israel, death to the Five-Eyed Empire; a thousand times, til there's no more air in my lungs to speak it and beyond

    • VILenin [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      Forced internment camps for every cracker motherfucker in this godforsaken shithole, nothing less will suffice

        • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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          7 months ago

          if you don't want me to call you a cracker, then quit cracking that whip. And wipe that salt off of your crunchy brow.

          You people are absolutely deranged.

          also:

          israel genocides palestinians w/ universal US congressional approval: i sleep

          some people said cracker online: real shit?!?!?!?!

            • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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              7 months ago

              as you can see we actually hold political power and this is going to happen tomorrow btw

              (we don't)

              many of the people on here are themselves melanin-deficients just talking shit. i wouldn't take it too seriously. and furthermore cracker is a state of mind. you look at the whole concept of whiteness and it's obviously socially constructed nonsense. Today Jewish Europeans and Italians are considered white. 120 years ago they weren't. That's because the whole concept of a pan-European white identity centered around paleness as a trait is nonsense. It keeps shrinking and expanding as needed to serve imperialism, colonialism, capitalism, and racism.

  • dead [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    Here is the text of the bill so you can read it for yourself.

    H. Res. 888 - In the House of Representatives, U. S.,

    November 28, 2023.

    Whereas the Jewish people are native to the Land of Israel;

    Whereas throughout history and across the reign of multiple kingdoms, the Jewish people were persecuted and expelled from the Land of Israel, forced to live as minority diaspora communities in other lands;

    Whereas Jewish diaspora communities were historically violently persecuted in, and in some cases expelled from, other countries throughout the Middle East, Europe, Africa, and Asia due to their religion;

    Whereas the Nazis attempted to annihilate the entire Jewish population of Europe during the Holocaust, murdering 6,000,000 Jews during this time;

    Whereas this genocide provided new urgency to re-establish a Jewish homeland for the Jewish people following the Holocaust, where they would not be a vulnerable minority, where they could freely practice their faith, and where something like the Holocaust could never happen again;

    Whereas the modern State of Israel was established on May 14, 1948;

    Whereas even after the establishment of the State of Israel, other countries and terrorist entities continued to attack Israel, reject its right to exist, and call for its destruction; and

    Whereas Israel is the only Jewish State, and therefore, despite persistent external threats, the existence of Israel provides Jews a place to live free from persecution and discrimination: Now, therefore, be it

    Resolved, That the House of Representatives—

    (1) reaffirms the State of Israel’s right to exist;

    (2) recognizes that denying Israel’s right to exist is a form of antisemitism;

    (3) rejects calls for Israel’s destruction and the elimination of the only Jewish State; and

    (4) condemns the Hamas-led terrorist attack on Israel.

    https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2023677
    https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-resolution/888/text

    • Dolores [love/loves]
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      7 months ago

      i thought these people went to expensive schools why the fuck does every line start with WHEREAS fucking hell

      • GinAndJuche
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        7 months ago

        Linguistic inertia. The evil rich white dudes who wrote the sacred texts used language that way so now congress has to until the end of this cursed nation.

      • fox [comrade/them]
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        7 months ago

        That's just how governments do resolutions typically. Tradition or some shit

        • oregoncom [he/him]
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          7 months ago

          The CPC's refusal to legislate using classical Chinese infuriates me.

            • oregoncom [he/him]
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              7 months ago

              I'm mostly joking. The move to more plain language happened under the RoC. It'd be pretty funny if they undid it as a fuck u tho.

      • mar_k [he/him]
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        7 months ago

        Most of them really didn't, a decent minority of the House didn't go to college at all. I looked up the guy who sponsored this resolution and he has a bachelors degree from a college with a 75% acceptance rate

          • Justaguymakingapost [he/him]
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            7 months ago

            While yes, certain (sometimes large) parts of (usually) monotheistic religions are definitely incompatable with progress and human decency, that mostly comes down to, imo, extreme adherence to traditionalism and intellectual stagnation among the believers of those faiths. Now certainly, polytheism has , occasionally, given a lot of people a very bad time. But, and this may not be the best example, I don't often hear about hinduism, shinto, or taoism being involved in human rights violations/ genocides. Now, I'm not as well informed on those as I should be, admittedly, but you can see what I mean.

            I agree that religion is partially responsible for the ever worsening state of the world, but it's not, like, the root cause. Not every rich asshole thinks it was ordained by god for them to be a rich asshole, sometimes (most of the time, even) rich people are just assholes, usually because they're rich. That may be an over simplification, but like, come on. In a world where traditionalism is less a rule and more a suggestion, religion could evolve properly and be less problematic, it's just that, currently, that's not going to happen.

            Idk if this is at all coherent; I'm just trying to say that defining religion as just EVIL isn't the awesomely correct take you seem to think it is, imo.

            • IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee
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              7 months ago

              Hinduism is absolutely violent...it's the basis of the caste system. Shinto is a religion in which there is no religious practice; it is basically just respect for nature and for known pioneers and geniuses of various disciplines. It exists alongside Buddhism, which is a philosophy more than a religion yet there are still violent and oppressive sects of Buddhism. Taoism is philosophical and based on enlightenment rather than serving any gods. It us often defined as a philosophy and not a religion at all.

              As for tradition: we have learned ad nauseum that religios tradition leads to destruction and death. I stand by my statement.

    • shroobinator@lemmygrad.ml
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      7 months ago

      Whereas Jewish diaspora communities were historically violently persecuted in, and in some cases expelled from, other countries throughout the Middle East, Europe, Africa, and Asia due to their religion;

      We've never been persecuted or expelled in North America though.

    • v_krishna@lemmy.ml
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      7 months ago

      Native groups need to take this up, the exact language can certainly apply (and in their case the documentation is a few hundred years old and well agreed upon, vs based on mythology that certainly doesn't apply to Ashkenazi jews at the very least). Unfortunately logical consistency isn't a winning argument so it wouldn't do much.

    • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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      7 months ago

      Oh fuck off. I was going to do something cute like suggest Zionophobic. The US government when me and a neo nazi are in the same room

      same-picture

    • tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      7 months ago

      So next bill, affirm support for the creation of a state for every minority group historically persecuted and pushed out of their homeland right?

  • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    So zionists have turned the star of david into a new swastika, and now officially characterized jewishness as inherently genocidal, pro-apartheid, and colonial in nature.

  • barrbaric [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    In passing the resolution, the House pronounced the “right of the Jewish people to live peacefully in their native land,” Lawler said.

    Fundamentally impossible to live "peacefully" when you're actively carrying out a genocide, but what do I expect from these ghouls.

    Edit: Also, found the full thing. What a fucking joke. On the upside, I guess it doesn't do anything material?

    Show

    • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]
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      7 months ago

      I'm a jew born in the US, but if I were asked to identify an ethnic homeland it would be Ukraine. I think that's true for a lot of Ashkenazi if they're being honest with themselves.

      Edit: so-far The Ukraine

    • Adkml [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      But "from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" is antisemitic.

      Only allowed to say you deserve to exist freely if your Isreal

      • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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        7 months ago

        From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.

        From the Jordan to the coast, Israel will be toast.

      • IceWallowCum [he/him]
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        7 months ago

        Only allowed to say you deserve to exist freely if your Isreal

        You know what it actually is.

        us-foreign-policy

    • SUPAVILLAIN@lemmygrad.ml
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      7 months ago

      Of course the colonizer caucazoid ghouls would say that; look at where the Anglo cracker barbarians come from

      [wild gesticulating at the ENTIRE HISTORY OF AMERIKA'S FOUNDING.]

      • barrbaric [he/him]
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        7 months ago

        I believe you'll find that was long enough ago that the international law of "No Backsies" applies.

    • ____@infosec.pub
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      7 months ago

      Nope, not a fuckin’ thing that matters. Just a chance for everyone to stake their claim on a position and make some statements that might resonate with the voters.

      • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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        7 months ago

        and make some statements that might resonate with the voters.

        Overwhelmingly the hardline zionist position has been shown to not resonate with voters, but here we are a near total consensus in Congress. Bourgeois democracy is a farse.

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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    7 months ago

    But you have to vote for Joe Biden next year or else the Republicans might do something bad. They might arrest you for activist activity under a false pretense!

  • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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    7 months ago

    kek they're literally signing into law that a word means something else now

    we need more stupid retconned fanfiction names for mayos, semitic and caucasian and aryan isn't enough.