the world’s leading democracies stood united against forced labor
slavery is explicitly constitutional here
IIRC the US constitution is the only one in use today that still explicitly permits slavery
So did they abandon the genocide claims because they know they can't prove them, lol? Now it's 'forced labor' which is already everywhere from US prison labor to World Cup 2022
no there's a line about condemning genocide and crimes against humanity in there still
They claim China is doing a genocide, but the headline is about forced labor. Smells like bullshit
The official government line has never been "genocide" for good reason. They leave that to the "free press" and the NGOs to massage.
EDIT: Never mind. "Genocide" is in there.
Trump admin officially declared it a genocide on his last day in office.
It's the old strategy of just rattling off so many allegations that people will go "well certainly some of it has to be true".
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Imagine the US economy the moment china does a single fucking thing against it. Even just like acknowledges it. lmao
Please remind me: What country is it that has the worlds largest prison population and how much wealth is created through the forced labour of these prisoners?
Uhh must be :vuvuzela-flag: or maybe :juche: it couldn't be the land of :freeze-peach:
China should hit back with an inquiry into the forced labour in American prisons
https://www.peoplesworld.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/racializedcapitalism940.jpg
I am perfectly fine with people criticizing China for their treatment of the Uyghurs. But I'm not taking shit from the US fucking government.
The manufactured consent around the Uyghur narrative is intended to give cover for exactly this sort of thing - and worse.
On a site like this, I think we can have a nuanced discussion about the effects of overpolicing, systemic abuses enabled by a system like the one in Xinjiang, whether the response by the CPC is justified and the fallability of any human system even if you think it is, etc.
Elsewhere though? China is doing nothing wrong, and fuck you for asking.
Sorry but you can go back and read some of those "nuanced" discussion about China on this website. You shouldn't expect anything better than liberal concern trolling.
People want to start with the assumption that the allegations could be true when the reality is you have to start with the assumption they are not true. It is the basics of Occam's razor and Russel's teapot but most don't get it. It may not be their fault 100% but it doesn't matter, it is futile to argue about something you disagree from the very first fundamental premise.
We could theoretically do that but I have yet to see such a thing. There is very little information to go off of, period. Very little to discuss unless we're playing around with known bad faith actors. Basically just official Chinese government policy would be uncontested but I have yet to see a nuanced discussion of it. I haven't even seen a discussion of it with someone who speaks Mandarin and breaks down terminology.
There is no bad treatment. Just don't be a terrorist or seperatist and china is chill.
Yeah this'll totally help the Uyghurs. It's not like companies will start refusing to hire Uyghurs for fear of being banned due to false allegations right?
I'd be glad to stand up against China and the forced labor of the Uyghurs, but it falls flat coming from a country that still has legal slavery such as the US. The 13th amendment didn't ban all slavery.
As far as I know theres literally no solid evidence of forced labor, I dont know why theres people on this site who still instinctively have to agree with allegations with no evidence behind them.
When it's repeated over and over your brain will automatically give the idea merit if you don't challenge it.
I’d be glad to stand up against China and the forced labor of the Uyghurs, but it falls flat coming from a country that still has legal slavery such as the US. The 13th amendment didn’t ban all slavery.
The only reason for not buying into cold war propaganda and not endorsing and participating in the "stand against China" over a manufactured narrative is that America is just that horrible and doesnt have the moral highground ? This feels reactionary af. Like if Just bernie becaming president and passing prison reform or living in a country with a better prison system than the US and with less horrible history would give you the moral ok to go full anti-china lib shit.
Kinda scary how some leftists would be glad to buy into imperialism if the US was like Sweeden . Fuck. If you feel the need "to stand up against China about forced labor" and the only reason you dont is because the country that propagate this has prison slavery you should really re-examine some things.
