I've been avoiding news at the moment so whats the dealio, nerds?

  • Gamer_time [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    U.S. backed color revolution. But the protestors are far outnumbered by the counter protestors. Also a bunch of twitter accounts suddenlly appeared with 0 followers and 0 previous tweets that supported the protestors, so that was pretty :sus:

  • Straight_Depth [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    As always the CIA amplifies and foments any legitimate form of protest or dissent into some regime-ending catastrophe for communism, and the press and social media sphere dutifully acts as its stenographers.

    If you've spent any time on twitter, you'll have seen the vastest array of the most asinine contradictory takes like:

    "Why don't we ask Cubans living in Florida what it's like under communism?"

    "The fault is of communism, not the sanctions"

    "We must end communism before the embargo"

    "We gusanos from Langley Cubans long for paid American healthcare, and immediate elections"

    "As an anarcho-succdem who has never set foot outside of San Francisco, I am deeply concerned about the brutal human rights abuses occurring in Cuba, and since all states are bad, we must destroy this state, as it small and weak"

    • Sacred_Excrement [comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      As always the CIA amplifies and foments any legitimate form of protest or dissent into some regime-ending catastrophe for communism, and the press and social media sphere dutifully acts as its stenographers.

      Probably the most accurate and succinct way of explaining things. I've seen other people point out that if these protests in Cuba constitute a need for regime change, then did 'Stop the Steal' not constitute the same? A minority of ultra nationalist protestors who want a more conservative governance.

  • carbohydra [des/pair]
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    3 years ago

    US embargo leading to medicine equipment shortages leading to major spread, blamed by gusanos on the corrupt authoritarian government

  • TillieNeuen [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    My dad yesterday: "Did you see what they're doing in Cuba? Plainclothes officers just grabbing people off the streets! Me: "Oh, that sounds like our police." Dad: "No, these guys weren't in uniform. People thought they were being kidnapped." Me: "That happens here too. I watched video of people getting snatched off the street and thrown into unmarked minivans. People thought they were being kidnapped." Dad changes the subject. Good stuff.

  • Florn [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Hong Kong-style protests that'll go away when the CIA money dries up

    • OgdenTO [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Funny how an agency with unlimited funding both public and secret can run out of money when they lose interest

  • SonKyousanJoui [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    My understanding is that there are people who are upset by the current hardship (sanctions + no tourism because covid + currency restructuring) and this is exacerbated by the US through media, anti-communist expats and most likely a bunch of covert shit.

    Biden's statement makes the US stance clear

    We stand with the Cuban people and their clarion call for freedom and relief from the tragic grip of the pandemic and from decades of repression and economic suffering to which they have been subjected to by Cuba’s authoritarian regime.

    • SoyViking [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      economic suffering to which they have been subjected to by Cuba’s authoritarian regime.

      Why do you keep hitting yourself?

    • SolidaritySplodarity [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Cubans with grievances trying to get them met by the government don't wave US flags. There is at least a mixture of Cubans focused on reforms and Cubans who are actually counterrevolutionary and trying to build propaganda for a color revolution.

    • OgdenTO [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Surprised he used the word "by", rather than the more accurate "because of"

      Economic suffering was not by the "regime" but by America embargoes which are in place indirectly "because of" the "regime"

  • Nakoichi [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Culmination of this long running op.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/03/us-cuban-twitter-zunzuneo-stir-unrest

    • ButtBidet [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      The guy wrongly stated that the embargo hasn't changed since Kennedy (Trump ratcheted it up right before he left office). He also keeps calling the Cuban government "Leninist*. No offense, but he sounds radlib at times.

      • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        Yeah, on Obama's very small list of Good Things was loosening the embargo, and Trump brought it back up to where it was before and more.

        • ButtBidet [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Putting Cuba on the terrorism watch list is the fucking height of hypocrisy.

        • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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          3 years ago

          i believe Clinton also tightened the screws after 1992, when Cuba lost the USSR as an export market. if the writer is a big lib, it makes sense they wouldn't mention this as it was a very difficult time for Cuba, and it was a move calculated to kick the people while they were down and push them into despair. many Cubans fled during this period (referred to by Cubans as the "Special Period") due to the massive shift in diet and land use since Cuba's constitution guarantees food as a human right.

          a good book about the history and details of the embargo, the longest running and most inhumane, is in this book: Cuba: Confronting the U.S. Embargo by Peter Schwab.

          i read it before a research trip there (homestays, countryside travel) on the advice of the american guy who lives there part year and organizes the trips for academic research. the writer is not a leftist, but they detail how the embargo works, how the US tightens the screws (often) and relaxes them (rarely). no one else on the trip read the book, because they are PMC lib douchebags, so i became the defacto guy to ask questions to.... but every time i would articulate one of the features of the embargo the libs would recoil in horror.

          i have a very low opinion of my fellow americans, but i sincerely believe if americans knew how the embargo worked, they would not support it and probably speak out against it. even most garden-variety chuds. i've told stupid chuds about it and the response is universally "that's shitty. no wonder they don't like us." the irony being that Cubans like Americans and recognize that we don't really know what our government is doing and wish we could travel there more easily, talk to them, and see how things are.

          Americans who do support the embargo are either 1.) completely ignorant about it or 2.) legit brain damaged psychopaths who would enslave the people of the island to work on a giant sugarcane plantation that the US deeds to them.

          --edit: upon reading that twitter thread, the author is a clown. hardly a mention of the embargo and when it does, it downplays it significantly. it not just block US exports. it fines companies that have operations in the US a million dollars per instance of engaging in a transaction with a cuban entity which operates using "stolen" property from american corporations (which is everything). also, any shipping traffic that stops at a cuban port cannot use a US port or US-aligned port (which is almost all of the carribean, as they have signed these mutual defence treaties designed to isolate cuba) for a period of 6 months. there is so much more going on with it that is set up to just isolate the shit out of cuba.

      • SolidaritySplodarity [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        Every president has screwed with the blockade, typically making it more extreme.

        Carter temporarily fought with it a little but Reagan dialed it up to new heights immediately.

        Bush Sr. codifies it into law with Congress, preventing presidents from meaningfully ending the blockade.

        Under Clinton there's the Helms-Burton Act, though Clinton makes small relaxing tweaks to the blockade late in his second term.

        Bush Jr. does his best to apply maximum pressure and end the Cuban government, creating and funding new and large working groups for how to do so, following their policy recommendations. Their explicit goal is "regime change" and their demands are primarily privatization; they often forget to slap on the liberal "democracy" pretext.

        Obama relaxes some restrictions but if he wanted to make long-lasting change, he'd need to change the law. He makes no attempt to do so and his changes are summarily undone by Trump.

        Biden has continued Trump's policies.

  • stigsbandit34z [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    I was told that this was nothing and would die down soon :doomer:

    The CIA aint giving up that easy

    • AnalGettysburg [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      USAID literally just got caught trying to overthrow the government via text based social network. Zum zumez or something like that

  • deadtoddler420 [any]
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    3 years ago

    According to Resetera its a left wing fascist supressing its population.

    God damn I need to reprogram my brain to stop checking that for news, but I have nowhere else to browse during work so ill still keep drinking that garbage